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cloggins Just Startin' 16 posts since
Mar 19, 2011
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Dec 27, 2012 4:53 PM

Before You Buy A JTV-69

tl;dr: The Korean Varaix isn't worth the money, and Line 6 support had an epic failure. Do yourself a favor, and buy a Shecter or some other guitar that will be worh the money.

 

Before you purchase one, or the Dream Rig, please check out my story and some of the following stories...

 

Firmware woes: http://line6.com/support/message/404332#404332

JTV-69 Neck: http://line6.com/support/message/403975#403975

Or heck, just google the following:  site:line6.com jtv-69 neck problems

 

Anyway, onto my story...

 

Prior to purchasing the Varaix, I knew of potential quality control relating to the neck and tremolo. There are several threads on the Line 6 forums which speak to the problems (see above), and solutions for those problems. The one bright note was that many of these threads spoke well of Line 6 support. Haivng faith in Line 6 (and some GAS for the Dream Rig), I pulled the trigger purchasing the guitar in February of 2012. Budget limits allowed for only the -69 and the Pod HD500. It was my intent to purchase the DT-25 at a later date.

 

Sadly, the first unit did have problems with the trem and neck. The purchase was made through Sweetwater (props to them). They quickly replaced the -69. The replacement unit also exhibited issues with tuning stability, and had flat spots on the back of the neck. I didn't want to be a pain, so I decided to live with it. Caveat emptor, as the saying goes. I just didn't want to spend the next six months of my life swapping guitars, because of poor quality control. In the end, it wasn't a horrid guitar. Had it gone no futher, I would have just taken my lumps and live with it.

 

Line 6 contacted me in early May in response to a customer survey I had completed regarding the Variax. The person I spoke with assured me that Line 6, "... would do whatever it took to ensure I was satisfied." He volunteered to replace the guitar with one that would work correctly. I took him up on his offer.

 

It took Line 6 over four months to deliver the replacement unit. Each inquiry of the status of the replacement would be met with another excuse. Heck, I had to prompt for status reports. The first delay was due to the lack of a bridge (I thought these things were manufactured overseas). The next one had a crack in the finish. It wasn't until I threw a fit months later that something was finally done. The replacement was finally received the first week of September. The condition of the replacement was, simply put, appalling. The unit was supposed to have received the personal attention of Tim Wilson at Tyler Guitars. The nut was over cut, the frets had not been leveled well, the strings were tied to the tuning pegs as if it didn't have locking tuners, etc. I had to pony up an extra $30 for a luthier to replace the nut to eliminate buzzing.

 

I again contacted the Line 6 rep to express my displeasure. I was met with the same litany of apologies. He offered to give me an amazing deal on a DT-25 to make up for my frustrations. Given that I was (mostly) happy with the HD500, and now that I had fixed the -69 myself, I thought I might at least see what was on the table. Sure, I was given an offer, and was informed that it was their, "Best accomodation pricing." Sadly, I could have purchased a new DT-25 retail and been within dollars of the price offered to me. Let me say that again... Their best accomodation pricing, was within the ballpark of what anyone could purchase retail. The fun part was when, literally a week later, they started their $500 off promotion for the Dream Rig. Putting the overall purchase price at less than what was offered to me.

 

That was the final straw for me. I'm pretty much done with Line 6 products at this point. If I had it to do over, I'd have gone w/ a Schecter guitar and Boss products.

 

As a side note, you'll often hear the comments that the -69 isn't a $1400 guitar. It's a $700 guitar with $700 worth of electronics. I now own two Schecters. One is a Diamond Deluxe 006, and the other is a C-1 Classic. Both were at or less than $700 when new. Both are far superior in fit and finish to the $700 Variax (with $700 in electronics).

  • Line6Tony Line 6 Support 1,917 posts since
    Jan 16, 2007
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    Dec 28, 2012 10:38 AM (in response to cloggins)
    Re: Before You Buy A JTV-69

    Hello Christopher. As Customer Support Supervisor, I truly apologize for the circumstances that led to your experience. As a company, please know that we do take Customer Service seriously and we want you to be happy with your purchase. I will contact you outside of this post to discuss the best resolution for your situation.

  • dmpoole Just Startin' 36 posts since
    Oct 10, 2007
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    Dec 28, 2012 10:45 AM (in response to cloggins)
    Re: Before You Buy A JTV-69

    Before you buy a Schechter or Boss gear listen to my story.

     

    I've been buying Line 6 gear for years with absolutely no problems at all and even owned a Variax 300 which was excellent.

    In July 2011 I go tmy hands on a Tyler JTV-59 and it was th emost perfect thing I'd played in 42 years of gigging. In fact it was that good that I traded in a Gibson Les Paul Standard and Yamaha SG2000 6 weeks later to buy another one. I've had 17 months trouble free from playing the Korean Tylers and still look at them in awe. I've recently purchased a POD HD500 and so far that's been trouble free.

     

    Just because you've had a bad experience doesn't mean we all will and remember that the majority of owners who post here are those that do have problems.

  • Lurotex Just Startin' 22 posts since
    Feb 6, 2009
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    Dec 29, 2012 1:51 AM (in response to cloggins)
    Re: Before You Buy A JTV-69

    i bought my jtv69 just one month ago and it ha just returned cause the truss rod was broken...

    the body design was orrible, it was cut so orrible.

    i think the level of the quality control on this instruments is likely zero. or someone of you is trying to place on market some bad guitar

    for recover money.

     

    The only thing i know is that i bought a guitar few days ago and now i am absolutly sure that i don't see it for months so as my money,and this only for "negligence" of your work.

    • spikey Just Startin' 378 posts since
      Feb 1, 2007
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      Dec 29, 2012 12:45 PM (in response to Lurotex)
      Re: Before You Buy A JTV-69

      I asked here over a month ago where I might find a parts store for Line 6 JTV's... The spring cover on my 69 has broken, and altho its not a show stopper Id like to repair it. Not a single reply.... So clog consider yourself very lucky you got their attention because even a few of the experts here have stated that Line 6 doesnt read these threads any more......

    • spikey Just Startin' 378 posts since
      Feb 1, 2007
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      Dec 30, 2012 8:04 AM (in response to cloggins)
      Re: Before You Buy A JTV-69

      Good for you.! Glad to see that Line 6 is helping you out, however Im curious to know why the deal was made confidential? You have pictures of Tony and his rubber ducky perhaps? lol....

      I would think for customer relations sake, Line 6 would want the world to know how well they treated their unforunate customers in situations such as this. But thats just me... YMMV....

       

      In any case congrats on your good fortune!

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