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nd_mustang Just Startin' 41 posts since
Dec 22, 2009
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Jan 25, 2013 7:37 AM

Inquiring Minds Want To Know...

So, there are some burning questions that I've always wondered the answer to, and I'm hoping someone here can answer them:

 

1. If I use the DT50 by itself, are the "four voicing" modeled after something; i.e. I can chose to force them to something with MIDI, but are the base voicings that come with the amp modeled, or are they in an "all tube" voicing that is just the circuit itself w/o any particular model?

 

2. When I use the HD500 and pick an amp, and then have the DT50 cranked, is it using both the "model colorization" of the HD500 "amp" as well as the actual "colorization" (distortion) from my DT50 because it's cranked up?

 

3. If using DT50 and HD500, if I don't pick any amp whatsoever on the HD500, does it leave it on Channel A or does it move over to Channel B - I heard some saying that on the DT25 it switches to Channel B.  The interesting thing here would be to store the amp model in the DT50 and then use the HD500 only for effects, freeing up DSP.

 

4. Where do you tend to put the mixer?  Right after the amp, like it defaults, or right as it goes out?  The reason I ask is that it's one of the main methods I use to control/balance volume on my presets.

 

5. What is the best way to get to the bias in the DT50?  Do I have to somehow "drop" the entire amp part out of the case, or is there a blockoff plate that is fairly easy to remove?

 

That's it, but if you have either a) answers to the above, or b) other great questions, this is likely a good spot for them all! 

 

Jay

  • TheRealZap Expert Line 6 User 11,829 posts since
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    Jan 25, 2013 7:50 AM (in response to nd_mustang)
    Re: Inquiring Minds Want To Know...

    1. the dt50 is not an all tube amp... so no matter what you pick on the amp its still either a digital preamp or a modeled amp being amplified. (pod or no pod)

    2. you will get the full digital model if you pick the full model... if you want to hear your actual tubes you need to select the preamp model.

    3. if i recall correctly it will move to channel B (the 300 does this for sure)... but you will also lose any effect you place post... because the audio will not come back to the pod to be reprocessed before playing.

     

    gotta run... i'm sure others will drop in and give you more ideas.

    • MartinDorr Just Startin' 98 posts since
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      Jan 28, 2013 2:56 PM (in response to TheRealZap)
      Re: Inquiring Minds Want To Know...

      I think the easiest picture to remeber is that whenver you use the DT via Lin6 Link and channel A on the HD, the DT's digital preamp section is bypassed and whatether models you have on the A or common path in the HD will hit the reverb selection in the DT, then get D/A converted, then optionally routed through the DT effects loop and then passed to the configurable power amp stage. How the DT power amp stage is run depends on your default or MIDI configured 'voicing' I/II/III or IV settings selected in the channel A path of the HD.

       

      If you selected power amp models on the HD you will get another power amp 'treatment' by the DT based on your selected voicing. The DT can't undo what you decided to model on the HD.

       

      I use the mixer before a volume pedal at the very end as my main means to level different tones (mixer) and adjust to venue (volume pedal). This works OK for hobby/home use but is probably not acceptable for live performance because the volume pedal setting is remembered in each tone, i.e., you have to readjust for every new tone you select. Master Volume on the DT is much simpler but will change your tone. For real live use you are probably better off with a good attenuator to move volume of everything in one swift adjustment. I like the mixer at the end for a large range of clean, sound neutral gain adjustment for the full digital signal range.

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