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  • Seann Just Startin' 32 posts since
    Nov 18, 2007

    "it's not a similar scenario at all...  i guess maybe i'm old school, but i consider my guitar to be much more than just a case to hold electronics...  i've never heard anybody talk about thier laptop's feel...  nor have i heard about somebody transplanting the electronics out of thier apple laptop into thier dell laptop because they like the case better...  there's already a history of variax transplants, because guitars are not computers..."

     

         If you have never heard anybody talk about their laptop's look and feel, my guess is that you don't have much communication with Apple computer users, or read articles about their new product releases. And who, except for maybe a joke, would try to put their apple laptop's electronics in a dell anyway? That would be like me taking the components out of my beautiful, black 700, and installing them in a lower quality, less attractive guitar. Apple is known for cutting edge product design, and the look and feel is hugely important. They typically use better components, and have much higher customer satisfaction than any other computer manufacturer. My scenario would apply to someone who wanted to transplant their apple components into an even more high end, custom case, maybe with exotic inlays or a special finish. Why you could even put them into a hollow body guitar, connect it to a remote monitor, integrate the pick guard with the touch pad, and surf the web while playing a song, or maybe while waiting for a long drum solo to finish. Next you could attach the iSight camera to a small boom, and then use skype to demonstrate your latest musical creation by video chat. I got my Variax after reading about it on Apple's web site. What makes a Variax different is the electronics, and from what's posted about transplants, people are doing it for their own custom look, feel, and functionality. Sure a guitar does different things from a computer, but what you want are the Variax electronic components to put in the guitar of your choice.

     

    "yes, you're right...  all i need is the motherboard and the variax selector knob...  everything else is attainable one way or another (although, if anybody out there has any idea where to get a 2-sided, 5-way gibson-style pickup selector switch, lemme know)..."

     

         As this is all you need, with your creativity and extensively demonstrated persistence, would it be so hard to get these Variax components from a service center? Their have been posts about people obtaining replacement motherboards for out of warranty guitars. We've heard from the Line 6 folks that they aren't interested in selling transplant kits, but I haven't read anything about not making components available in special cases, and I'm confident that you, as well as anyone who has followed your posts, know you are that special.

  • kristianbrigman Just Startin' 124 posts since
    Sep 7, 2007

    I really wish this could get resolved... the whole transplant scene complicates things in other ways too.... my variax is currently on the fritz, and it looks like the CPU board (i've taken everything else apart and checked it). The nearest Line 6 service center is at least 100 miles away. But I can't really get any service documentation, and I can't even get a replacement CPU board, except by going through a service center, who (at least the one I talked to over email) won't do it unless I ship them the guitar and then I'm also paying their bench fees. I am somewhat technically competent (i do CPU validation, which isn't directly comparable but I do know which end of the soldering iron is hot). I've repaired a few vintage synths, and did some mods for a cs-15 I once had. But I really can't do much with my broken variax.

     

    Now, my variax is a 300, and is amazingly cheap for what it does; it's my first 'real' electric guitar and it's amazing for that. And eventually I'll be brave enough to ship it through the mail to get it fixed (i still have to get a box for it). And (I have to admit) based on the replacement costs, Line 6 is not reaming us, and they actually make replacement CPU boards available for a reasonable cost. So I really shouldn't complain too much; at least it's cheaper to fix it than buy another one used (although not by much once I factor in shipping), which is often not the case for older digital synths. I bought a Pod X3 to go with it and sold my H&K crunch master/korg A1 combo more than anything because the ability to switch programs on the fly with the footswitch really appeals to my engineer side. So I know i'll get my fixed (or get another one) sooner or later. It's just a little frustrating knowing that it's probably something simple and relatively cheap, but Line 6 has to be very tight about parts and technical information because of the whole transplant thing.

  • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
    Sep 1, 2008

    how bout something like this?  see attatched photo.

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  • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
    Sep 1, 2008

    i can  see your point in not wanting to spoil the looks  of a nice gibson thats why  when i did my first transplant i went with a danelectro pretty much everything is on the back of the pickguard.  i had to custom make that one  and seal the pickup holes  i put the  1/4 inch connection there as well    i needed the room for the boards to clear  so i put a 1/4 inch mono guitar plug where the trs plug was and made an external battery pack on the guitar strap. that eliminated the little battery box on the back.   question is how are you going to get all this in the gibson without  messing the  back of the body up. im assuming its a hollow body.

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  • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
    Sep 1, 2008

    this is what i plan to hook everything into.  i have to make up a  harness from the piezos that will split to this and to the vax board. shouldnt be hard to do.  just as i like to say  a bit tedious.  check attatched pdf

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  • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
    Sep 1, 2008

    im sure someone could make up something for you  probably something  like a start type but with a  gibson top so you could  mount it in the   existing hole. wouldnt think that would take much more than changing out the  switch arm   and adding  a screw in top.

  • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
    Sep 1, 2008

    its too bad you couldnt remove the whole back do your  electronics then put it back in place with some small hidden screws under the edging  so if you need access at another time. before i did the danelectro  i was considering doing it to an epiphone dot i have .  but it plays so nice and has such a good sound  ..i didnt want to ruin it.  did you check out the pdf grom graph tech ?

  • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
    Sep 1, 2008

    yeah i know what you mean i learned  alot the hard way  and a strat is a good place to start problem with a strat is this  the  line6 bodies are thicker than strat bodies.  that being the case the coffin case  if you use that type  is probably too thick  to put in a strat bodie. it wouldnt fit in   the danelectro hollow body either. i scrapped the coffin case and just used the boards.  it didnt have any ill affects. i think the case is just a way of plunking  it all in  in one piece anyway.

  • amx05462 Power User 3,495 posts since
    Sep 1, 2008

    as far as  the split goes i figure maybe an inch out of the plug ends on the pickup wires  on the  end that goes into the board  then branch off to the vax board under the bridge plate.    vax  wiring takes care of the rest.   by the way did you mention you had a fender twin  in an earlier post?

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