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Best practice for grabbing IRs from other modellers?
Aurasphere_au replied to Aurasphere_au's topic in Helix
Baha...thanks Craig... Ok the book...sounds good and I did mean the comments about your inputs at SOS...way way back. I spent a lot of money on those all sitting in a corner now :-) EDIT: Had a look at some of your articles; to be clear, for sure, close mic eq for IR is clear...but Im definitely talking about the sound package ie drum kit vs a snare. In other words room response in terms of space cue is an important part of the IR for me...is this excluded from the term IR in helix? Cool, Yep at the end of the day that its hey? I was waffling about time domain because I hear so many recordings now that are close mic, no space which is unfortunately a missing element that is so helpful in create good mixers; eq itself doesnt fix this, space does eg sit 4m out from a string quartet (acoustically)...those ms cues are so helpful and thats my aim...sure eq is a big part of the cab but front to back is prob more what Im looking for especially for cleaner tones. -
Agreed, its definitely got a more playable response...with a tad less bass applied, its close enough then anyway Now if I can just get an IR out of guitar rig I think Im set...
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Best practice for grabbing IRs from other modellers?
Aurasphere_au replied to Aurasphere_au's topic in Helix
Sure But you are joking right; comparing freq with time? Slapping a parametric on a time domain issue isnt exactly helpful information to others reading. The er/slap, rear bleed of an f8 picking up all of that with phase anomaly affecting over time will never be addressed with eq. Its about the space surrounding an object that s important to human spatial cueing which is what IR in this application is all about. I somehow think we are assuming different things here...its eq over time and spatial cue all in one...yes it is far more than an eq unless you are using singl sample DIRAC for eq purposes...unless Im missing something here? I digress...just looking for someone who is well schooled in the art of IR capture in context of Helix and willing to share insights? I can work it out from that point and ill be sure to share back here with actual AB samples whether its a failure or not and help others on the journey. -
Best practice for grabbing IRs from other modellers?
Aurasphere_au replied to Aurasphere_au's topic in Helix
Hmm I have to disagree; an impulse response done properly is doing far more than eq; eq is static, IR includes time capture. Sure it can easily do freq domain but its the time domain that is equally important to cabs. Non linearities are the issue. I was simply hoping to replicate (close enough) what I hear in the control room (real) when I mic up. For sure; thats why Im here but its more than sound; its feel. What does it elicit in playing/emotion. Im using a lot of bits and pieces atm to just put together 3 main sounds (plus variance of that preset) The problem is, just because something is new, doesnt mean its better ;-) Was just hoping that could all be done in the helix. They def got the IO right (although you cant loop out to usb without assigning a path which is weird) but it really is good. Sure some of grig cabs totally suck but the ui of CR and speed as to dialling in sounds instead of blind tweaking is amazing and Im not complaining about helix amps etc, I quite like the Fender twin vib model...its not particularly close to the real thing but its sounds great....its just some of the other stuff isnt. A 4x12 split stack with 121 on each side (L/R pan); 1/cone edge, 1/cap edges with a frequency key on each channel is so good and a go to (in many studios). If its in a dig realm already, then why wouldnt you use it? Can I ask the question with respect; have you ever spent a lot of time in a studio, micing up cabs etc and even eg used ribbon mics on them? Do you gig much using monitor levels > 87db and FOH > 1000w? Could you do a quick clip for us to listen to your fav preset that presents a multi mic cab? That would be cool Cheers -
Cheers I guess its not even about the helix version...I have 2 other pieces of software that I can blind test every time as much more vibrant than the helix. To level the playing field; I using identical pre in with 500k impedance and roughly calibrated using -12db on 440 with a consistent pluck. The helix really does sound muffled and even when I eq it or try and get it right, its easy to pick because it gets worse the more I add to it I have had the helix for a while but I play classical/steel string/electric using the 3 inputs which is a great feature (as well as sending a dry for guitar synth etc). Do you have any examples of presets you have done using 808? Is it a critical component in your setup? TBH this all really started because the phantom power died on the helix (for acoustic mic) so I whipped out an old rig which had guitar on it and it sounded better but more than that, it felt so much more responsive to play especially with dynamics as my monitor was pretty loud at the gig. So I thought Id try and get something close...but thats not happening Ill give the legacy a go...as well as my friends ts for second opinion BTW the difference is blind pickable every time; i setup a switch and flick quickly with eyes closed before I start so I dont know which is which. Then I play, switching slowly...its obvious.
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Aha...I get it then. I love playing music with peeps...something happens that just never makes it out of the studio; not to say I dont love hanging there but live...wow...the magic :-)
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Baha...I dont use compressors on modellers or with any kind of saturation as ie saturation is compression (well clipping is limiting really); sure its a sound but....
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Interesting...I always thought it was a 12 bit chip :-\ but yeah 8k is the magic Baha...dragging around the pod as an insert fx live is pretty dedicated... Its looking more like Helix Live...I found a vst of the DM1000...pretty close actually. Thanks for the reply...hope you are doing well!
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Cheers...Craig has been at the anvil a long time so total respect...his days on sound on sound were amazing
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Thanks for your reply Before even starting the journey, it needs to be within scope of an AB comparison...it sounds nowhere near it atm. Just kind of lifeless and flat...and the harmonics sound kind of fizzy in comparison to the original and even guitar rig. Ive just downloaded a couple of others. What I mean is plugging it into a chain of variables is not an ideal way to get each stage right...like I said, this was a 17th birthday present...Im pretty familiar with how it should sound and it just doesnt... :-( EDIT: Despite spending a lot of time trying to dial the L6 TS808, it really does sound muffled and flat with a boost in the low mids that is not there on the hardware nor guitar rig...prob halfway between GR and the brainworx imvho
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What I mean i, I used guitar rig for years; one of the reasons is the brilliant control room ie so fast and such good sound to create cabs You can't have everything so I want to grab some of my favourite cab setups and copy the irs into helix Has any got a refined method to do this they might like to share? And Ill buy you a coffee or beer :-)
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I use(d) an Ibanez dm1000 delay; I tried the low res delay but its got such a different feel...any help pointing me in the right direction would be great; they have such a great balance of folding the delay back with the right freq balance that it doesnt crowd the original and has repetitive degrade on the loop return but not too much...a great compromise between bucket brigade, tape and pure digital.
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Hi All Im trying to set up old gear in the helix that I have (original ts808/1982 that was a birthday present...yep Im old)...I have mucked around with the hxedit/scream808 and its just missing something...I thought it was just dig realm at first...so I opened up old guitar rig 5 and did a side by side...and its a hell of a lot closer and feels right when you are playing it So to get the helix more in line with the original...are there any tricks and tips you might be aware of or should I just give up and patch the pedal (but its an extra complexity I dont want and it defeats the point?) Cheers
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Helix Live Plugin...why does it 'phone home' often?
Aurasphere_au replied to Aurasphere_au's topic in Helix Native
For anyone else; support replied and stated that once authorised, HN will not phone home and leave you stranded at a gig as opposed to the helix, locking up...twice...shortly before a gig and needing a reset and despite the phantom power blowing at a gig (as I use condenser mic for an acoustic)...as you dont always have control over who plugs your gear in ;-) -
I realise its been asked in different ways 1. Problem; there are prob 3 must have setups from hd500 that must make it into helix...but when I try and copy from 1 to the other, there are terminology diffs etc. I dont want to do a lot...but there are 3 presets that really are bread and butter...there are some great new ones in Helix...but I need these old ones, as close as poss to how they were on hd500 Cheers
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Helix Live Plugin...why does it 'phone home' often?
Aurasphere_au replied to Aurasphere_au's topic in Helix Native
Just realised I should have posted in another area...please move to software/helix And yes I read that the trial needs to be signed in at all times...but even opening the screen? Cheers...hope it helps someone else -
In Ableton, even just clicking on the settings for Helix Native (after I have closed it) causes it to check server for authorization Im wanting to use this in a live rig/minipc as Helix just doesnt cut it for my application and I cant stand the footswitches... Is there someway to stop it or at least refresh it before I gig? Cheers
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Ok thats weird...I did a search of 'sysex' first and no results Hmm sure if thats what they think...i guess we are only the consumers. Well actually Im not interested in doing sysex if there was another elegant way of doing it tbh. I want to make use of the scribble strips; when I am communicating to eg a mixer or other device, I can generally use OSC which is a lot easier to navigate...but um...Helix and most users I accept arent on that page but surely there could be a little edit function where you can simply import a compliant B&W icon and let line6 handle the magic. I dont mean to be skeptical but this is my experience so far Purchase helix second hand from the original purchaser who has never used the mic but fails when we plug a mic in and turn the phantom on. The chips are on back order and will be another 6 weeks before I can even get the parts to fix it I bring the the helix home and spend 3 hours recreating some basic patches and I save the presets etc but no to HD thinking hardware is bullet proof and Ive never had a fail with the HD500 BUT I reboot the helix as the usb port seemed a little flakey ie I reset The helix freezes and despite spending a fair bit of time its obvious I have to reset and recreate the patches...3 hours of my life gone...I have better things to do than this and 1 after another, shortfalls and workarounds. Integrating USB is pretty clunky when I simply want to use it as an elegant fx loop USB audio driver has high latency is intermittently unstable and causes BSOD. Have switched to asio4all/Helix and seems to be ok now and round trip latency down to acceptable 6ms So I think...yay at least its got all this great feedback for custom ui/ux satisfaction...access denied Looking like mini pc and native etc really is the only way out of this... Appreciate your help DC
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If you ever want to sell it? :-) I think might be a lot easier to use something like that and ditch the helix...ie Native/hosted in Live/midi guitar in Live etc
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Can I record USB 7 while using a different audio interface?
Aurasphere_au replied to dmcasas's topic in Helix
Hey! to provide some background but just using as a single io driver instead of Helix Asio My Live daw/lappy is completely stripped out ie no bloatware, minimal services band usual peformance tweaks (i7 8 core old lappy) When I use Asio4All, its extremely rare that I get a crash with these settings To get similar performance use Helix, its between 12-16ms (hard to get stable comparisons) and I occasionally get BSOD (ie this morning when I was testing for USB performance/IO) Anyway...works for me...mileage obviously varies -
Not sure what Im doing wrong here The manual states USB 7&8 are hardwired to Git and Mic in as far as I can tell or does this indicate Aux does not get a channel? I setup a test project USB 1&2 = Processed Helix Usb 7 = Git/Aux? Usb 8 = Mic USB 1&2 = No probs If I plug guitar > guitar in, then I get input on 7 = correct If I plug guitar > Aux in, then I get NO input on 7 and NO input on 8 = incorrect?? Does that mean I have use another path simply to process the aux? Yes I use both all the time; elec into guitar and classical into Aux, Acoustic into mic which is of course blown...so am waiting for that but cant test atm Any help greatly appreciated
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Hi All I have had to resort to using external midi to manage helix atm...I use a mini pc for ext midi guitar synth so after not being able stuff going for switching on board eg gesturing as well...send midi out to processor eg Bome and then sending back in seems to be a workaround. This way I can also get multi state buttons etc too So If that is going to really work well...it needs to write back to the scribble strips; can anyone point me as to resources for that? I have done it before eg writing back to Mackie Control display for the same reasons Any help greatly appreciated
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Can I record USB 7 while using a different audio interface?
Aurasphere_au replied to dmcasas's topic in Helix
I understand...its funny as its always worked well in the case I mentioned ie NOT 2 multiple IOs...to the point that for live, I often run the helix > asio4all because the latency is sooo much better and I find the helix or HD drivers just randomly crash. I get what you are saying...but it works for me...sorry to hear you had issues. Im about to change my 'insert box' ie pc to an i7 mini pc so will be interesting to see how that goes. Silicon...anything is possible...I tried and tried with ipad and had nothing but issues so I gave up yet others still swear by them. I does run onsong nicely and thats the only job it gets now :-\ Cheers -
AB Split Block...why no toebutton assignable?
Aurasphere_au replied to Aurasphere_au's topic in Helix
LOL...thats funny. Yeah I get it...Ive gone the other way and use to be almost exclusively in the studio...now its a balance of the 2 with a lot of nice peeps I hang with but more than that, the live play informs me of a finished and playable song, start to finish, which seems to really capture something but also rationalises and simplifies what I can do instead of a never ending production value...especially after binge watching 'minimalism' doco All the best...