Drybonz

Ok... so, neither Microsoft or Apple or any operating system developer is testing the many thousands of individual pieces of software that are out there on their OS updates. To think that they could or would do that is absurd. The way it works, in general, is they release betas to the developers before it hits the public, and software developers, like Line6 have an opportunity to get their software ready to be compatible with the new OS. Some developers take advantage of this, and some, like Line6 do not. There are certainly and frequently problems with all sorts of new OS versions, but that is not what we are talking about when we have a discussion about third party software compatibility. You are not talking about the same thing.

There's a whole new wave of Mac hardware that just came out that will have Big Sur installed out of the box. So, while I would agree that the base is pretty small right now, it's not like widespread use of this stuff is years away like Line6 would like people to think.

So, you think that Microsoft and Apple, etc... are going through all the many thousands and thousands of pieces of third party software to test them and make sure they are compatible each time they issue updates to their operating systems? I just want to make sure I understand what you are suggesting.

Any luck with Helix Edit? It's running with a good bit of lag for me and a couple other people around here.

Big Sur is not "broken". I've been using it since it was made available to the public. It does sound like some people had problems installing on older Macs from what I understand, which is definitely a problem. That being said... this problem has absolutely nothing to do with the Line 6 software compatibility problems. This is 100% a Line6 failure to update their software problem. These things are entirely unrelated.

The ones that do nothing to get their software ready are certainly criticized. Simple as that. Nothing else to get. I was using Big Sur since it was available to the public and the only problems I had were with the companies that weren't getting their software updated. There were plenty that did get right on top of it and set an example for the others that did not, including Line6, which is happy for people to stay on Mojave, or even roll back to Mojave, and stay there forever.

The Big Sur beta has been available to developers for months, so that they could have their software ready when it was made available. Line 6's expectation that people will just not use a new Mac OS so that they can not only disregard the advanced prep time they were given, but also ask people not to use what is now a current OS is absurd. Unfortunately, and to be fair, it does seem to be the music industry standard with trash software, in general, that looks like it is from the early 2000's and updates that are constantly and absurdly overdue. I guess I'm saying the banner at the top of the page asking people to avoid the current OS doesn't carry any weight. They need to get on it.

Yes... I'm a Stomp user with limited blocks.

Yeah, this is a pretty good way to go about it... since, from what I understand, the Boss Chorus was based on the Jazz Chorus?... but three blocks just to simulate the channel on one amp is rough. But yeah, it's a good workaround. Ideally, you would just have the chorus channel on one amp model.

Sorry, I misunderstood... thought you were saying it couldn't be done because of DSP resources.

I get that... but couldn't they just make that channel a separate amp model... like they do with the "bright" model amps? People can just choose not to use the "bright" version. It's ok, I figured this was a no go... I just wondered if there were hard to find settings I didn't know about. As far as asking why I would want this? Why would any of us want amp effects on a pedal that is for simulating amp sounds... seems like it would be something people would want.

Thank you. I'm glad someone else can confirm this. Yes, I'm getting faster on the Stomp box as well... would be great if Line 6 were on top of this, though. :)

I'm guessing this is a "no", but is there any way to activate amp settings in an amp mod, like reverb on a Fender amp, or chorus on a Jazz Chorus, etc?

It's official now that the final version of MacOS Big Sur will be out on Thursday. The developer beta has been available for months so that companies could get their software ready. I'm wondering how Line 6 has used this time and if they will be ready.

That's just a general Line 6 warning not to use a new OS. There's no mention about whether there actually is a problem with the Helix software in Big Sur. Line 6 would have us all using Mojave still if they had their way, just so they never had to deal with any problems... in fact, there's another stickied thread asking people to roll back to old OS software if they have problems. Not trying to debate... just saying I wish someone could confirm the root of the problem through actual experience. Thanks for all the replies.

By that I meant everything that I use. When Big Sur started there were some apps that just wouldn't load because they weren't compatible... but now everything I use is fine... and from a performance standpoint... nothing is running badly... except Helix. I really don't want this to turn into a "don't use new or beta software" thread, as there are plenty of those all over the internet, but I can say that, if this is the problem I'm having (and you wouldn't know because Line 6 doesn't talk about it) I really wish they would have had the software ready, as the OS launches in a couple weeks or so. *edit* The links are for a different issue... usb 2.0 accessories crashing.

Well, everything else is running great in Big Sur, so I assumed it was something else... again, that's why I wish someone else was able to confirm the problem.

Hi... yes, I have tried all the recommendations, except a global reset... none of these things have made any difference. I'm wondering now if the Helix software is having problems in Mac Big Sur. I'm not having any performance problems with other software in Big Sur, but it could be this is the first. I wish someone else, or Line 6, could confirm it doesn't work right (not just "we don't support this OS yet, but to say it actually has confirmed problems). Anyway... it looks like I am stuck editing on the pedal for now.

I still get horrible lag using the Apple adapter. Editing on the pedal is fine... seems like it must be something with the software, but nobody else says they are having this problem. It's like 3 seconds lag or more every time I click on something. I'm using a 2020 MacBook... everything else runs fine on it.

Another thing is a limiter or compressor to squish and soften some of that attack... that was a big technique in the 80's. Chorus, as mentioned was pretty much mandatory, but turn the depth and speed down so it's more of a color in the tone than an obvious effect. If you're doing an amp model, the JC120 is a good one to go with for your 80's sound.

I actually have one of those. I didn't think it would be any different than the hub, but I will definitely use it next time. Thanks for the tip.

Thanks for the replies, guys. I am on 2.92, but I am actually using an Anker hub because the MacBooks these days only have USB C. How can I get around that?

Using my 2020 MacBook Pro, the lag in the Helix software with the hardware plugged in is so bad it's unusable. It's way easier and faster for me to just use the pedal to edit. Is this everyone's general experience with the software? If no... what are some tips to get mine running better? Thanks for the help.

Thank you!

Hey guys... anyone have a diagram, or something that would help me wire up some pedals in two separate mono fx loops on the HX Stomp? Thanks for the help.