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metalplated

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  1. try an amp dialed in with a mic mixed with your helix direct sound and favorite pre. use a phase adjustment tool like the little labs or radial unit. Its much more convincing to my ears and pleasing. I am saying this as preference, I like the sound of a well made acoustic amp combined with a direct sound. To me it sounds much more full and resonant. Not saying that the di sound can't be good or pleasing either, it's just very different. I have listened to your playing through the helix and the crowdster and I love what your doing with it. I am simply advocating for an acoustic amp as being a valid option and the power section of those amps is a big part of that sound.
  2. The power section does effect the the over all sound. It has to do with how the speaker loads the output of the power section. The resistance combined with the response of the speaker for one. The response time of the the power section as well. Power sections of acoustic amps are not razor flat. Different designs sound different that is just a fact. If what you are saying was true then there would be no need for load boxes and no need for different mics for that matter because thats what a speaker is essentially, a mic in reverse. The power section is just as important as the pre amp section it has a sonic imprint on the sound passed through it. Important to note that I am not arguing with the guys that do the preamp to the board thing just saying that it's not the way everyone goes about their ac setup. The components that go into an amps power section change the sound the same as the components that go into a microphone. Would you argue that microphones all do essentially the same thing therefore there is no need to model different designs?
  3. This is true in theory but not so much in the real world of analogue. I have an Acoustisonic from fender that adds a lot of character to an acoustic. It tames the quack of the pick ups both from the preamp and from processing through the power section out of the speaker. the power section of amps impart a sound character to all guitars not just electric. the end result is a much more lush and pleasing sound vs a bright and biting sound from just a preamp alone into a PA. That is true for both tube and solid state acoustic amps. So yes acoustic players that are used to the sound that they get from an amp design for that instrument are not going to be happy with what is coming out of the Helix currently. I agree with the jazz rivet comment, it seems to like the acoustic but it would be nice to have a couple of options in the Ac guitar world. Including preamp models that are popular with Ac players. Some higher end tube pre's like Avalon 737, Sebatron axis, ADL And not surprisingly a Manly Vox Box sound incredibly good with ac guitars. When pushed they round of the transients in a very pleasing and subtle way without sounding over driven or crunchy. Something that most electric guitar amps that are tube don't really do. A typical recording and live path for ac players is their stage amp and stomps combined with a really good direct through a tube pre slightly driven to add air detail and sustain. In fact having a couple of those higher end pre's both tube and transformer based would be an excellent addition to the helix as they would benefit everyone. Neve's and Api's sound really good pushed just before break up too. They are as much apart of the sound as the amp's being played through. its a big reason why the the third party Ir's sound so good to everyone, They add that flavor that the generic super clean modeled cabs in the Helix lack. It's the same with solid state acoustic amps and their power sections. Does this clarify the subject a little? We totally need more everything in the Helix.
  4. What do the bass players here think about getting this modeled along with the edge activator? Laser Cannon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxAWX_afgA0 I have the edge activator and its pretty awesome, and it works well on acoustic guitars too.
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