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Hi Ozanerkal The thread that datacommando cited earlier on from vader1 has an outline of everything that needs to be deleted. In working with L6 support directly, I got some additional clarification. 1) THere are a couple of files that post says you do not need to get rid of. Get rid of them. Unfortunately, this is going to mean losing all of your presets. I came to Helix via an Helix Floor unit which i used for gigging for a few years and only adopted Native later, so i have my presets in that hardware unit and was able to back it up and then restore my presets later. You may or may not have that option. 2) This is crucial. Logic has to run under Rosetta or all of this will be for naught. If you right-click or (for us hopelessly Mac heads) Control-Click on the Logic app, you’ll get an info window. In that window there is an option to run Logic under Rosetta. 3) Don’t try to reinstall Native from an existing installer. Redownload from the L6 site. 4) Once you have installed (this advice came direct for L6 support), disconnect Wi-Fi and any Ethernet connection before launching Logic. Once launched, open a *new* empty project, add a track and try to place an instance of Native on a track. This will force the system to reauthorize. When you get the authorization dialogue, reconnect and reauthorize. I actually had to do this a few times before it “took” and, unfortunately, I can’t tell you why the last try was successful. Once it’s working, if you have a backup bundle, you can restore it. One thing that was not clear—at least to me—is that restoring does *not* put any IRs you may be using back in their proper slots. You will have to reinstall those manually. The good news for me is that it has been running without issue for almost a month now. Best of luck with it. And, I’ll reiterate. As much as i know that Apple has made life hell for audio companies for probably a decade now, Monterey was announced *seven* months ago, it was available in beta to developers almost that long ago and it has been the official current release of macOS for just shy of three months. Apple has released multiple hardware models aimed directly at creatives and content makers that will not run on anything older than Monterey. I have tons of plug ins from Waves and Antares and Slate and Plug-in Alliance and they all work. (OK, VSX from Slate is working only in a beta version. But still…) Line 6 has been, for a number of years now, owned by Yamaha and there are few companies in the music space with more resources than Yamaha. (As an old school music magazine editor for a couple of decades, I know this from experience.) Hey @Line6Tony it looks like the last official update about this sad situation was posted back in August. Maybe it’s time for a new update? Just a thought…

Thanks datacommando. First, to be clear, I’ve been a Line 6 user and fan for a long time and have always been impressed with their support. But this issue is stuck in my craw for reasons i can’t fully explain. Good news is that i got everything working again. Had to follow the whole process laid out for this way back when and manually delete everything, redownload, reinstall, restore from backup and then hand place my IRs into the correct slots. Big PITA, but it works again. I have my issues with every OS after Mojave and how it deals with what used to be the iTUnes library. (I can’t begin to count the number of people who I dealt with from Catalina forward as the new Music app literally destroyed iTUnes libraries and deleted all of the song data. Apple’s official response is to direct people to restore the library from backup. Which, of course, almost no one actually has. I would call them immoral, hubris-filled scumbags, but that is an insult to scumbags.) I have a huge library that i have spent years putting together and do not want to chance that kind of destruction. So the new Mac is only for audio and video work and I kept an old (2012) Mac mini that still runs Mojave so it can be the “root” machine that manages the music library. Thanks for your help and have a super groovy rest of your day. Cheers.

This is, unfortunately, beyond just the "hey don't upgrade macOS yet" warnings. Those of us who have purchased new Macs have *no choice* but to run Monterey. That is what ships with the machines and the Gods of Cupertino, in their infinite wisdom, took away the ability to boot into an OS version older than the one a Mac shaped with some years ago. I have been using the Rosetta workaround mostly successfully up until today. Now, I can't even *open* and project with any instance of Helix Native. Immediatley upon opening, I get an error message that a plug in may cause the system to be unstable and the only option is to Quit Logic. Line 6 may CLAIM to not monitor these boards but that's BS. Having worked that kind of gig for Apple for 8 years, I can promise you that someone see's new posts and there is some level of moderation happening. At this point in time... Waves stuff works Slate stuff works Antares stuff works Audio Modeling stuff works Isotope stuff works At this point Line 6/Yamaha is the outlier and they need to get it together.

SO I tried this and it totally works. BUT, I would like to be able to use the toe switch to engage the wha (I only use this pedal for wha) and that is not working. In one position, the switch engages the wha but in the heel position and pedal movement does not change anything. In the other position, the wha works as expected. So far, the only solution I've found is to assign bypass for the wha to a switch on the Helix and use the pedal just to *control* the wha. Any thoughts on incorporating the switch would be grand. ANd, sidenote, if you've not seen Joe Gore's blog post at the new Line 6 Model Citizen blog, it's life-changing. I had no idea, I could specify a snapshot as a controller and change, not just what is active in a snapshot, but totally change the parameters of amps and effects just by changing presets. Awesome stuff.