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  1. Yes, thank you as well for all the feedback and info on this. Dunedin Dragon: I do suspect that sound person is not gain staging things properly. Sound check time is really sound "validation" - you have sound coming out. I found a good Youtube on proper gain staging (although using an Axe Fx) that I plan on sharing. It's a delicate balance since the sound person is also an associate pastor who has been running sound for at least 5 years. And normally the sounds is pretty good - a bit muted and keyboard heavy but solid with no major issues. But everything has been pretty much the same during that time (except for a few direct to pa guitar attempts) - until now. They have started to remodel the sanctuary and that has involved removing a short wall that surrounded the stage. This removes a "buffer" for guitar amps and the wedge monitors. Our PA is also starting to age, with multiple channels not working and we only have 4 in ear monitors available - not sure what the constraint is there. All that to say - getting a direct to pa guitar sound working should and a "silent stage" or will become a priority as will having the ability to give everyone in ear monitors. If I can't get any traction testing the Helix and adjusting the Trim/Gain knob, next week, I may just take my amp. I'm sure once the carpet is pulled up in a month or 2 and we have concrete floors and the sound is bouncing around everywhere we'll be revisiting the stage volume levels and the running the Helix direct and getting a good monitor mix will look like a great idea.
  2. Just Startin' hope I didn't hijack your thread. Did you find the answer you were looking for? MusicLaw - I was hoping to avoid some of the more complex routing but at least I know that is an option. I am only using 1 patch; a modified version of Chad Huskey's Matchless - so it does have some advance routing that I'm not sure I completely understand yet. Dunedin Dragon - you hit on what I suspect is the root cause. While the sound person is experienced - we have rarely ran a direct guitar signal successfully. I suspect he is not backing down the Trim/Gain, thinking he minimizing the changing variables. Keys, Bass and Acoustic all go direct. The wedge with that mix was very loud the night of rehearsal. It seemed to have been adjusted by the Sunday service when I brought my amp. The other guitar player in the rotation is playing thru a mic'd up Roland Cube. 2 other guys have run Tech 21 Liverpool and Axe FX in the past. However, they are no longer playing on team. I have tried using HD500x, T21 Liverpool, FlyRIg and even my T21 TM10 direct. As default I choose to just have my TM60 mic'd up I may try to reverse things - send the FOH the XLR with Master Volume controlling the volume and then send the 1/4 to my JBL and control via JBL volume controls I'm guessing the headphone out is not as optimal as the 1/4 output but I can't really tell a difference comparing the JBL to my audio interface What is the difference in signal volume with Mic Level vs Line Level on the Helix? What about sound board with a similar control - should these be in sync?
  3. Go to Global Settings and I think it's page 2 of that screen; you can change the volume knob to control only the XLR or the 1/4. Default is both. There may be one other setting. It appears when you flip the volume know to only control the 1/4 output only the actual level of the XLR output is still pretty hot. I didn't know this 2 weeks ago when I took my Helix to rehearsal for the first time. I'm interested in what others have done. My first attempt with the Helix at church I ran into challenges at rehearsal. I was running direct via XLR. The sound person said my signal was too hot so I had to back the master volume down to 3. I was running a 1/4 out to a powered monitor (JBL 610) however, the JBL was getting buried by the wedge with everyone else (keys, bass, acoustic and vocals). I ended bringing my amp on Sunday and could here just fine. I'm wondering if the sound person could change from mic to line level. Would that make a difference and give him some room to use my direct signal. An option I may explore is to use the Headphone out and have control of both signals. Or sending the XLR to JBL and the 1/4 to DI box and control the output on stage via the JBL.
  4. I think I am experiencing a similar issue. Last night I tried running from Helix XLR to the board at church. I also used 1/4 out to JBL 610 powered monitor. Sound person said the signal was too hot with the external volume knob at 40-50% so I backed down to about 20-30%. However the JBL could not be heard over the stage wedge with the mix of everyone else (drums, bass, keys, acoustic guitar and vocals). I even cranked JBL to the max and asked that the wedge be turned down. I was unaware of being able to virtually "disconnect" the volume know from the XLR out. That is an option I will try in sound check on Sunday, possibly along with trying to change the XLR out to Mic Level I've never been able to get my guitar sound in the monitor mix with HD500s' in the past. So that is why I have the JBL. Sound person (and associate pastor) has been protective of the board and it's in and upstairs control room so it's not easy access. So I don't know if there really is a way for my trim or or level to be lowered on my channel. So if I do the above and it's still hot, I'm guessing I would need to back the channel volume down on the patch? For now I'm only using 1 patch so it would be easy to test. Another option I thought of was to continue to feed the XLR to the board but use the Headphone Out to the JBL and have that to control the stage volume. Thanks.
  5. Yes, sweetwater I meant to say that in my first post
  6. Mine arrived on 11/30 with 2.10 and all the new amps in that release I have not upgrades to 2.11 yet, myself but will soon since I haven't really built anything from scratch yet
  7. I was able to get things to work about a week later. Not sure if thi issue was on my end or l6.
  8. I'm blocked on trying to run Monkey in OSx so I'm unable to get Firmware upgrade. I've tried backing down a few versions of Monkey but no luck. I was hoping to get this installed and buy the Classic model pack but will be waiting until this issue is resolved.
  9. I'm having a similar issue in OSx. I'm getting no messages about why Monkey (v1.70) is hanging. Anyone else experiencing this? Any idea if backtracking to an older version will help?
  10. I was wondering if there solution available to fix a lose connection with the power adapter on the HD500. I lost power during rehersal at church. Wiggling the connection restored power but will not be an ideal solution going forward. I was able to recreate the issue at home. It appears the connection is slightly compromised but works most of the time. I would like to stay away from a duct tape solution. Is there anything that can be adjusted or tighten up externally or internally to minimize the risk of the losing connectivity? I've had the unit for about 6 months and typically keep the adapter plugged in and switch the power on and off at a power strip. However for transport I unplug and load into a gator bag. This only occurs ~2 to 4 times a month. I think I have seen other gear discussions where a solution is to mount the POD onto pedal board and leave the adapter plugged in, using an extension cord to get to the power. Thanks.
  11. I'm using a modified version of Lincoln Brewsters patches (park 75 model). I plan on using those patches as a comparison as I build other patches using the vox and baseman models. Knowing how the LB patches sound at church and home give me good baseline to compare other tones. The alto ts10 really helps at home. Previously I was using a tech 21 pe60 and the end result was that patches that sounded good at home came out too bright and digital at church. Doug Doppler who demos a lot of gear YouTube including line6 and tech 21 products, has some interesting vox ac 330 patches posted on his site. A big difference in volume so to use at church I need to balance these out with the louder LB patches.
  12. I've had good luck with the Lincoln Brewster HD500 patches. I did back the gain down some and tweaked the eq; bumped the bass and treble and backed down the mids. I also tamed the delay time down on the analog pedal. You will want to test in your PA system at church. I tested my patches at home via an Alto powered monitor. It was kind of dark and bassy on that system but perfect at church.3
  13. I picked up an Alto TS110a to use at home. I also upgraded my audio interface to a Focusrite Safire 2i2. I am working with a few amps (Park 75, AC30 and DrZ) building patches with some variations.I am scheduled to play at church next weekend. I will have Weds evening for rehearsal to try out my patches. I am using the Lincoln Brewster Park 75 patches as a baseline sound. I am trying to crank up the volume at home to see if I notice changes. I plan on doing some recording this weekend to compare the patches I have built so far.
  14. Everyone, thank you for all the answers. I will proceed cautiously and experiment with a few different options when shopping for an FRFR monitor. Likewise, I'll spend the time to really experiment with shaping a building my patches. I'm not scheduled to play at church again to late May. If I don't my patches ready I can just use the house amp (roland cube 40xl) and my M9.
  15. I have a few questions regarding POD HD500. This is my second HD500, having owned one previously. I know this topic has discussed in multiple threads. Some I have read others I may have missed. My new HD500 is in transit so I haven’t been able to sit down and relearn all the ins and outs yet. I currently have a Tech 21 Power Engine. However I am looking closely at powered monitor FRFR options. The PE is ok but recent research confirms my past results: building patches on the PE then trying to go direct does not always yield accurate sounds. While the PE is relatively lightweight and can sound like an amp, I really don’t want to take an extra piece of gear to church if don’t have to. With this venue and sound team, I don’t need to. I am trying to identify the best solution for monitoring of the POD HD at home while creating patches. My primary use will be at church in worship band playing Hillsong and other contemporary songs. Here’s how I see myself using the HD500 at home: Prepare patches for church wanting them to sound good in the PA and monitor mix with minimal tweaking on the fly. No need to take an extra amp as stage monitors and sound team are very gifted and reliable. IEMs are an option in the future too. Practice songs at home to prepare for church – I may be running direct into an audio interface to mac but at times will want to play thru the FRFR at home at moderate volume to tweak and just for fun sometimes Practice and play other songs from rock, country and jazz in a similar fashion to #2 There may be a time in the future where I would us the powered monitor on stage at a jam session or other musical settings such as solo acoustic guitar or even bass I am considering selling off the PE60 and a Crate Acoustic amp to fund the majority of this purchase. Has anyone been successful in using the PE60 to set up patches that work in a direct PA setting? Is it possible to play thru the PE60 in combo / power amp mode then switch to direct mode when plugged into a PA and have the patches sound the same? I was setting up patches in studio/direct mode on the PE60. However, into the PA it sounded very digital and sterile. I’m looking for opinions on powered monitors that fit into a $200 to $500 range. I realize that a $200 Behringer model will not sound as good as a $700 to $800 QSC K8 or K10. I do see a lot of options in my price range. Will these powered monitors be transparent enough to get me in the ball park matching what I will hear in the PA? Will I need to adjust or compensate for differences between the powered monitor at home and the actual PA at church? Is that any different than the PE60? I could get time at church on the PA to adjust and tweak but I want to make that time as efficient as possible. Other questions/considerations: When connecting the HD500 to a computer is there a difference between a USB hub and direct into computer? I have a Macbook bought in 2011. XLR out of POD or ¼†out of POD? Do I need to be consistent between home with powered monitor and church going direct to make sure patches will sound the same? I appreciate any insights and/or direction to other threads that discuss this topic.
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