scias23 Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 It's been a long time since I visited this forum as I have found a good combination of settings for the guitar I'm using (Brit J45 amp, some overdrives and delays). However, I'm planning to redo my patches again as I got some comments that my guitar tone sounds somewhat thin, lacking body and whatnots. Surprisingly, the 'Son of Plexi' patch sounded good on my guitar. But I had to do some minor tweaks to it (reduce the boost comp gain, set mixer to center, reduce channel volume, resonance 0%,thump 20%, decay 20%). I also switched the midfocus effect to a tube comp. I will make it my main patch from now on. Now I want to know how much top end I should roll off using the GEQ as I use it also as a tone shaping tool. My current settings for the GEQ are low cut 100hz, high cut 7.5khz. Am I cutting so much high end? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutchguitarist Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 My take on this: The frequency range of an electric guitar goes from about 60Hz to about 1.2 KHz. From 1.2 KHz to 6 KHz there is the area where the harmonics live. Beyond 6 KHz there is nothing musical present. Given this it is a good idea to use Global EQ to cut all frequencies below 60 Hz and above 6 kHz. But, by all means, experiment. As always: adept don't adopt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunedinDragon Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I think how much you cut out of the top end is a factor of several things; what styles of music do you play, what type of guitars/pickups you use, your preference for the tone you like. I'm a little cautious about what I cut due to those factors. I play a very wide range of styles with a range of guitars so I'm a bit conservative in that regard and cut at 8.0 khz. I figure if a given patch/guitar combo on a song needs more than that I'll deal with it using a parametric EQ, but I'm trying to avoid slicing out so much that I lose the crispness and articulation I look for in some of my patches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I don't use the GEQ. The guy running the mixer gets paid for a reason. Let him earn it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunedinDragon Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 Apparently you trust your sound guy a lot more than I've ever trusted one. Heck, I feel pretty good if he can keep the vocals heard above the instruments.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted December 8, 2015 Share Posted December 8, 2015 I realize the fact that, today, I am not in the same boat as everyone else. I didn't wake up in this boat. I started where everyone else did. But I have always owned my business and I wasn't going to let some hired help ruin my business. ---- A sound man can destroy your career. Don't let it happen. You are the boss. Be the boss. I was spending $1500 (in 1980's money) each night on sound and lights. And that was for bars that held 200-500 people. I know people don't get paid like that anymore and the same time there are more places providing sound and lights so they don't need to pay for it themselves, but everyone still needs to take control. It is your name up in lights. No one (except other musicians) ever walks out of a show saying "gee whiz that band was awesome but the sound guy really should have dropped the mids a little. We should see them again next week" No, they walk out saying "what the hell did we spend $5 on that for! Never again!" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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