joel_brown Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 I'm trying to switch to an FRFR system and have tried to create a high gain classic rock type tone. I would like to get some feedback from some of you that are already doing FRFR systems and see if I'm close. I like what I came up with but those of you who have done this a while could have some suggestions to fine tune it. There are two patches both based on Soldano. The only difference is one is stereo and the other is mono. The patches are for the PODHD Desktop but I think you can just rename it and it should work with the HD500. FRFRSoldano.zip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 +1 on the mono patch. Very Tom Scholz-ish. I like the Soldano models a lot...never used that mic/cab combo with it before though. I rolled the bass off a bit, as it was a little boomy for me, but that could just be attributed to playing a different guitar. I like it... and I've had zero luck with Customtone. Nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 They sound good to me. Something I could certainly use. I would maybe use the 57 off axis instead of the 4038, which seems a little to dark and soft. The 57 off axis has extra brightness while still retaining the basic tone of the 4038. In place of the digital delay for stereo separation, perhaps try a pitch glide with plus or minus 0.1 pitch and 100% mix. Might make it sound a little bit less sterile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joel_brown Posted December 9, 2016 Author Share Posted December 9, 2016 Thanks for the feedback. I'll try the PitchGlide again. I tried it once before and it gave me a strange phasing effect but I may not have been doing it correctly. I use 2 amps/cabs when playing live and the 20ms digital delay works pretty good when the cabs are spread apart. I tried the 57 off axis at first but it wasn't doing it for me. I'm trying to match the tone a friend of mine has with his hot rodded Plexi. This seemed to come the closest so far. I wanted to make sure the tone wasn't fizzy or had any other unwanted artifacts in it. A fresh set of ears from other guitarists is really helpful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted December 9, 2016 Share Posted December 9, 2016 If you get good results with the digital delay, I'd probably stick with that, since it works for you. Plus I have no experience with actual amps and cabs, so the pitch glide might royally screw the tone. The phasing effect you mention sounds familiar. I remember getting something like that when using dual cabs. As another alternative to the digital delay, I remember trying one of the reverbs once. Can't remember which one it was, but the concept is the same as the digital delay. The advantage is that you can have a delay less than 20ms by using pre-delay. This can help to minimize the slap-back type echo you get if the delay between speakers is too much (for me 20ms is too much), while still retaining a good separation. Another thing that might enhance the effect is in addition to a delay, try putting a very subtle modulation on one of the paths, probably so subtle that it's nearly inaudible. Maybe a phaser or flanger. Just that little something extra to differentiate the tone on the other path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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