amalashock Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Hey all, I'm loving the Helix so far, and have gone as far as using the helix as my standalone, without any amplification, direct into the PA, and having a mix sent to me via IEMs. The issue that I'm having is that the sounds between my IEMs and the PA are drastically different. My IEMs sound thin and harsh, however, through the PA, it sounds lush and full and REAL. When my tone is thin, like with my IEMs, I overcompensate and play much tougher - which is harder on my wrists and fingers and is not enjoyable. When I put on Over the Ear headphones, it sounds a lot closer to what I hear coming out of the mains on a PA. There is also a distinct volume difference and I have to turn the headphone volume up a bit more. My IEMs are Westone UM Pro 20's - Dual Driver My OTEs are Equation RP21 - Single Dynamic Driver Is this an output impedance issue, since the Westone's boast a lower impedance for higher sensitivity? And if so, is there a way to correct it besides getting a different set of ears? Thanks in advance for your help!Andrew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsdenj Posted December 13, 2016 Share Posted December 13, 2016 Not sure I followed exactly what you are doing. I think you're saying that IEMs and OEMs sound different coming from your PA's monitor feed. I'm also assuming that you are not monitoring through Helix's headphone output, but rather the headphone (or other) monitor output from the PA. If this is the case, then perhaps your IEM's are not matching the PA's monitor output impedance. Try using your own dedicate headphone amp fed from an XLR output from your PA monitor mix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted December 14, 2016 Share Posted December 14, 2016 Hey all, I'm loving the Helix so far, and have gone as far as using the helix as my standalone, without any amplification, direct into the PA, and having a mix sent to me via IEMs. The issue that I'm having is that the sounds between my IEMs and the PA are drastically different. My IEMs sound thin and harsh, however, through the PA, it sounds lush and full and REAL. When my tone is thin, like with my IEMs, I overcompensate and play much tougher - which is harder on my wrists and fingers and is not enjoyable. When I put on Over the Ear headphones, it sounds a lot closer to what I hear coming out of the mains on a PA. There is also a distinct volume difference and I have to turn the headphone volume up a bit more. My IEMs are Westone UM Pro 20's - Dual Driver My OTEs are Equation RP21 - Single Dynamic Driver Is this an output impedance issue, since the Westone's boast a lower impedance for higher sensitivity? And if so, is there a way to correct it besides getting a different set of ears? Thanks in advance for your help! Andrew Were you using them before the Helix and if so were you monitoring your guitar with them and were they getting a good sound then? Or, were they purchased for use with the Helix? Could just be a matter of EQ'ing them properly with the mixing board although you may have already tried that. Does recorded music, vocals, or other instruments from the board sound decent in them? Often a bad fit with IEMs can be responsible for a thin sound. Trying some different sized/shaped in-ear molds if they sent you multiple choices may help dramatically improve the bottom end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amalashock Posted December 14, 2016 Author Share Posted December 14, 2016 The issue was with the fit of my iems, plus a quick cleaning of wax. Beautiful sound now. Kind of a derp moment. Thanks for your help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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