mitch103 Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 So I decided to go with a soldano patch on the first solo and a bogner shiva patch on the 2nd. The rhythm amp was my mesa 100w dual recto head through a boogie 2x12 cab. I thought it turned out okay but i'd like so alternate opinions. Here's the link: Edit: I also used a (real life) Morley Mark tremonti power wah in between my guitar and helix throughout most of the soloing. Also when I tracked this I didn't have my OwnHammer IR's or my Mission Engineering Gemini II yet, (which I now run the helix to and mic up for leads) so I was just going direct in. Also I don't remember which amp block or mic model/distance I had set up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmoncebaiz Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Nice job all around. Both tones sound good (as does the rhythm), but I like the 2nd lead sound as it stands out more than the first. The Shiva also seems a bit fuller than the Soldano. The section where the vocals come back in and the Soldano part is playing under is works out nicely. But it could stand to either come up a little in volume or mids for the bit when its on its own. Or perhaps that tone without the wah would help thicken it up. But any which way, nice job again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch103 Posted February 10, 2017 Author Share Posted February 10, 2017 Thanks so much for the feedback! I agree 100% that the Shiva lead tone is way better than the soldano. The only reason I did that was two have different tones for the different lead sections to help separate the mood of the two to the listen if that makes sense. In hindsight, my new favorite lead tone in an update that wasn't out yet when I tracked those solos is the Mesa Mark IV Lead channel model. Man that's a killer tone with some an overdrive in front and a delay after the cab block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I preferred the soldano lead tone over the shiva. Not exactly sure why, but I get the impression that the soldano fits in better with the rest of the mix. A slight volume boost is about all it needs. The shiva tone sounded a bit harsh and too striking. Could be because it's louder, perhaps a little too loud. The only other thing that stuck out to me is during the choruses, when the rhythm guitar kicks in, it's a bit indistinct and vague, getting buried in the other parts a bit, but maybe that's what you were going for. Overall, it sounds really good to me. Nothing that screams major error. :) Just a few tweaks here and there. Nice song and playing as well. The mesa mark iv amp is my absolute favorite. I don't think I'll use anything else ever again for lead tones. It doesn't even need anything helping it along, just the amp. In fact, I'd say putting an overdrive or distortion in front kills the character of the amp a bit, but that's me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch103 Posted February 11, 2017 Author Share Posted February 11, 2017 Thanks for the alternate input and compliments man! I guess I should have mentioned in case it wasn't so obvious that on both solos I'm using the Morley Mark tremonti power wah (the real life one, I can't stand trying to use the helix expression pedal for that) in about 80-90% of the soloing. That wah has a built in gain boost I had dialed up to about noon which could have added some of the harshness too I imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HonestOpinion Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Quite excellent and yet another reminder of what a thin line there is sometimes between the industry anointed act that achieves some degree of lasting fame and some of the more talented folks who post their own self-produced material on this forum and elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch103 Posted February 12, 2017 Author Share Posted February 12, 2017 Well thank you very much kind sir! The music biz is tough these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsd512 Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 Wow that sounded great! I tend to agree with duncann on the soldano. Maybe just a bit more volume, but still thought it sounded perfectly fine. I thought the shiva part was a little too much front-and-center ... unless that's what you were going for, and then if so, leave it. :) But I liked that the soldano seemed to be pushed back into the mix a little more - it was still prominent, but didn't dominate over everything else. Great job! Lightyears ahead of what I can do. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch103 Posted February 15, 2017 Author Share Posted February 15, 2017 Thanks man, the Shiva lead was supposed to kind of be front and center so we did that on purpose. But tone wise some of you think the soldano lead in the bridge was better huh? Or is it that it just 'fits better sonically in the mix'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted February 15, 2017 Share Posted February 15, 2017 ... But tone wise some of you think the soldano lead in the bridge was better huh? Or is it that it just 'fits better sonically in the mix'? That's exactly the impression I got. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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