twystedriffs Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 So I got my helix before Christmas, and decided to run into my existing cabs through my powerblocs. Loved it, then started recording last week and added cabs for my studio monitors. I am hooked! Sadly a lot of my previous patches had alot more amps and effects in each patch, some would go on or off per snapshot. Now I have to redo my patches removing alot of things for the sake of the cabs. I knkw usually less is more, but i am missing some of the nice layers from going straight to amp. Just a random gripe, but really enjoy the extra sound quality and cabs/IRs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twystedriffs Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 And as a secondary question, if an amp/cab block allows you to switch cabs within the block, why use an seperate amp and cab block? Any idea which uses more dsp? I am using two cabs to get some of the spread I like, but am just running out of space and having to rethink alot of things running this way. Score one to running through a real amp, but I already hear a huge difference going straight, so I want to get the most I can out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verne-Bunsen Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I can't speak with authority on the DSP consumption, but my own experience has not indicated any difference at all between an amp+cab block or the same amp and cab separately. With regard to the advantage of running them separately, I can think of two. The first is the ability to put stuff in between them. For instance I find that spring reverbs and tremolos, among other things, can sound fantastic after the amp but before the cab. The second advantage is that, if you are running two cabs, you can balance them. By running two cab blocks in parallel with an A/B split you can adjust how much of each cab is coming through. And you can apply reverbs and delays separately which allows you to create a much bigger space. I guess a third advantage is spreading out your DSP consumption. I tend to run pre-amp effects and the amp on path 1, route path 1 down to path 2, and run post-amp effects and cabs/IRs on path 2. With regard to your patches not quite jiving with what you now find yourself wanting to do with them, all I can say is that I feel your pain. It seems like every time I learn something new about Helix I'm re-building everything from the ground up. Good thing this stuff is fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunedinDragon Posted March 28, 2017 Share Posted March 28, 2017 I guess another big advantage of splitting the cab and amp is the ability to easily change the cab from a stock cab to an IR or vice versa. At the start of using the Helix I didn't recognize this which meant that when I started getting into IR's I had to manually rebuild my amp block in all my presets because there's no way to easily split the amp and cab while retaining all their settings. Just a word to the wise..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twystedriffs Posted March 28, 2017 Author Share Posted March 28, 2017 Thanks digi. I do the same with my cabs, I like using two as well, mainly curious if it saved dsp using the combo. And yes, I could tweak for days (and have).. finding things sound great in my newest rebuilds, just simpilfied.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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