Tap tempo bpm or ms to show up on scribble strip or home page

[petepodge]

Would be great to see actual tap tempo in bpm or ms (switchable) on the tap tempo scribble strip. (This could be a feature you can turn of or on if you want to use it.

I know you can see the bpm if you touch the button but I usually wear shoes when playing live.

[Lotta_Gear]

What does the tap tempo scribble strip display? I have the LT, so this would be a feature the LT couldn’t share. With the full version, I think you can assign a stomp effect to that switch, right? Maybe that’s why it doesn’t display bpm...

[gscott]

Yes, BPM display on home routing screen or scribble strip, plus make BPM adjustable on delay block settings. 

[DunedinDragon]

I guess I'm not sure I understand the value of this when playing.  The light is flashing the appropriate tempo.  I don't need to know the BPM of the tempo, just a representation of the tempo.  What does knowing the BPM do for me live?

[petepodge]

9 hours ago, DunedinDragon said:

I guess I'm not sure I understand the value of this when playing.  The light is flashing the appropriate tempo.  I don't need to know the BPM of the tempo, just a representation of the tempo.  What does knowing the BPM do for me live?

I play with young drummers that don’t play to click and sometimes are a bit off... when I have bpm on a screen I can see how close they are when I tap in and let them know if they need to speed up a little. I know It’s there responsibility to keep in time but they are just learning and it helps me to know exactly how far out they are to give input. I just figured an expensive all in on effect processor should allow those that want great features to have them. I have this on other delays an use it regularly. Helix has pushed them off the board though... ;-) By all means if the idea is useless to you and they do impliment tempo display it might be good to have a global setting to turn it on and off so that it doesn’t get in the way. 

[DunedinDragon]

53 minutes ago, petepodge said:

I play with young drummers that don’t play to click and sometimes are a bit off... when I have bpm on a screen I can see how close they are when I tap in and let them know if they need to speed up a little. I know It’s there responsibility to keep in time but they are just learning and it helps me to know exactly how far out they are to give input. I just figured an expensive all in on effect processor should allow those that want great features to have them. I have this on other delays an use it regularly. Helix has pushed them off the board though... ;-) By all means if the idea is useless to you and they do impliment tempo display it might be good to have a global setting to turn it on and off so that it doesn’t get in the way. 

I guess the setup I have seems to fill that need and I didn't consider other ways of doing things.  I have a preset specific to every song we do.  As part of that preset I dial in the tempo so by simply selecting the preset/song the tempo light automatically reflects the correct tempo for myself or anyone else that needs it.  That's part of the reason I approach it this way.  It's also useful to me in practicing a song, or in easily setting up effects for that preset/song that may be tempo dependent.  Although our drummer has his own click track which is set to the same tempo as mine, often I work with other drummers that don't have a click so they can easily use my tempo light as a reference.

Even then it's not clear to me in your situation how the BPM display is useful.  Without a visual representation of BPM such as a tempo light it's somewhat meaningless.  If you tap it in I suppose you could maybe get it close to what you want the tempo to be, but what would the display of BPM offer you other than feedback telling you the tempo you tapped in was off and you need to tap it in again?  Ultimately only the visual or audio feedback of the tempo is useful.  So I still remain confused.

EDIT:  Okay...I re-read what you said and I think I understand.  You tap in whatever beat they're playing and compare it to the BPM the song is SUPPOSED to be, right?

[petepodge]

1 hour ago, DunedinDragon said:

I guess the setup I have seems to fill that need and I didn't consider other ways of doing things.  I have a preset specific to every song we do.  As part of that preset I dial in the tempo so by simply selecting the preset/song the tempo light automatically reflects the correct tempo for myself or anyone else that needs it.  That's part of the reason I approach it this way.  It's also useful to me in practicing a song, or in easily setting up effects for that preset/song that may be tempo dependent.  Although our drummer has his own click track which is set to the same tempo as mine, often I work with other drummers that don't have a click so they can easily use my tempo light as a reference.

Even then it's not clear to me in your situation how the BPM display is useful.  Without a visual representation of BPM such as a tempo light it's somewhat meaningless.  If you tap it in I suppose you could maybe get it close to what you want the tempo to be, but what would the display of BPM offer you other than feedback telling you the tempo you tapped in was off and you need to tap it in again?  Ultimately only the visual or audio feedback of the tempo is useful.  So I still remain confused.

EDIT:  Okay...I re-read what you said and I think I understand.  You tap in whatever beat they're playing and compare it to the BPM the song is SUPPOSED to be, right?

Yep you got it. I get where your coming from though too.

Also if I’m doing an acoustic set by myself with no drummer, I just want to see if I’m in the ballpark of what tempo the song should actually be and can adjust slightly if I’m out too much. 

But like you said. In the case where I know in advance what my set is I could preset each song to a tempo and use the flashing tempo light to make sure I’m in time. That’s what I like about the line 6 forums. I’m always learning from other guys on how to do things better.

Thanks for your input