Tehzim Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I've got an Ownhammer IR for one cab block and I want to also have a second cabinet (onboard one). So I can have both going at the same time to get the sound blended. I've tried this by using a splitter to the second cab but it sounds muffled. Also when using the Archon Lead channel the gain is so overwhelming that it's hard to use for rhythm play (yes I realize it's a "lead" channel). Suggestions? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Yes you can use multiple cab or IR blocks, or a mixture of both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 If a high gain channel has too much gain for what you want to do, put a volume block before it and turn it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelstringer Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Just a heads up on mixing irs. Phasing issues can arise if you blend irs from different companies. I tried mixing Ownhammer with 3 Sigma, and the sound was muffled and unusable. I’m not sure if this issue arises when blending irs and Helix stock cabs, but I wasted a lot of time turning knobs before I figured out the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 You can correct for phase inversion when you merge the paths: it is the "B Polarity" option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Phase isn't binary in the real world, unless the two sources are extremely well correlated. You're still absolutely right that flipping it is worth a try if you don't like what you're hearing though. Some IR makers offer Minimum Phase versions, which are reputed to be subtly less natural on their own, but combine better with ones from other makers. I'm not sure exactly what processing is involved, how effective it is in particular specific cases, or even what companies offer it, but it is a thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbuhajla Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I prefer mixing IRs and onboard cabs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tehzim Posted January 23, 2018 Author Share Posted January 23, 2018 Yeah I tried some variations but it seems like using a stereo reverb after the IR got the opening I wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hotroddeluxe76 Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 I'm newer to the Helix and am having the same "muffled" problem when running 2 cabs that came standard with the Helix. My path is: Matchless Amp into a Y, A1 is a cab and A2 is a separate cab, back together via mixer, then out. I've tried switching the phase on the mixer, panning the Y and the mixer hard R/L etc, but no luck (I'm using the stereo R/L 1/4 outs to test the signal). There is a significant volume decrease when running both cabs together and the sound is muffled. Am I missing something? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted January 25, 2018 Share Posted January 25, 2018 Hmmm, a number of my patches have two cabs in parallel like yours, don't have that problem. I do mix them back to mono though, with a unity gain volume block. FX after that are stereo, for spacial-ness, but I want the cabs themselves on both sides, otherwise the mix of them changes when I move around. Which doesn't actually answer your question, because I don't know :) Works For Me , which is about as unhelpful as it gets... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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