guillefran_ Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Hi, I'm new to the forum. I have an HD500X which gives me a lot of headaches due to the wide variety of parameters it has. It is a constant struggle. My problem is that I use it to play live and sometimes it doesn't answer me. I spend hours configuring the sounds in a 15 watt amplifier, where incidentally, I have no problem. At the moment of using it live with my band, I do not use an amplifier, but it is connected directly to a console (or mixer they also call it) and there begins the ordeal. First of all the sound is not the same as in the amplifier clearly, and sometimes the pedal stops sounding when I have it in bank 1 (footswicht A). Then I start touching cable by cable to move everything, I check knobs. volume, nothing happens. Then I switch to Bank 2 (Footswicht B) and return the sound to normal. It's as if it stopped working until I change banks. Will the problem be the console to which it is connected? Or will it be my pedal problem? Should I flash to it? If it happens to someone else, I will appreciate your response! pd: excuse my lousy English, I'm from Argentina. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 I think most of this can be answered with one word ---- DUH You are using a 15 watt guitar amp to make sound at home in your cozy little bedroom and a 10,000 watt pa system to make sound in a dirty dingy bar . And it sounds different - DUH. As to the sound issues, always start with a flash. But I would also check phase issues. Your guitar amp, I assume is running a single 1/4" wire, but then your pa system is using one , maybe two, xlr wires. That is a problem depending on how you have your patches designed. And, yes, it could just as easily be the console. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlklein Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 (edited) Ok, I'm going to answer as both a sound guy and a guitarist (I have a POD X3 Live, but same concepts apply). -Your 15 watt amp at home will most assuredly sound different than any PA system that you plug directly into (btw, congrats on apparently owning a 10,000 watt sound system? lol). -If you like the sound with the 15 watt amp, there's nothing wrong with bringing it to the gig and have them mic it, otherwise, practice with headphones and the amp modeling turned on to get a better idea of how it's going to sound. (Fun fact, many walls of amps seen on live tours back in the day were dummy cabinets and there was a 5 to 15 watt tube amp behind them with a mic in front of it, and it sounded beautiful). -If you're plugging directly into the sound system via XLR, MAKE SURE THEY HAVE PHANTOM POWER TURNED OFF. I can't say yes or no if it will damage your pedalboard, but best to assume it would. You could also contact Line6 and ask them if the XLR outputs will block the 48Volt DC phantom power. -If they can't turn off phantom power, consider using a direct box, which will convert your 1/4" output to XLR mic level that you can plug into the sound system safely. -If your patches are stereo, and the board is run in mono, and you're plugged into the mixer in stereo (both XLR or both 1/4" outputs), and both channels are panned center, you may experience cancellation in some patches (I've experienced this personally with some effects boards run in stereo). Consider purchasing a small mixer and PA that you can experiment with at home. -Honestly, if you're running live, just run Mono. Stereo doesn't buy you anything unless your sound system is an LCR system (left/center/right) and each seat in the house is covered by a stereo cluster (one left and right main speaker in a venue doesn't count). -If you're using a stereo to mono combiner or direct box to feed the sound system, don't. You can get weird cancellations that way as well. Just use the mono output from the pedalboard itself and it will internally convert to mono output properly without any weirdness. Trust me, no one will know whether you're running stereo or mono, and most live concerts you see are in fact run in mono.(edit: if you have to use a stereo to mono combiner, make sure it's a proper resistive-combining type, not just a Y-splitter cable turned around backwards to combine 2 into 1...that can actually damage stereo outputs. Look up Rane Note 109: "Why Not Wye?" note in Rane's highly respected Knowledge Library for more on how to do this properly). Hope this helps, Jeff Edited July 25, 2019 by jlklein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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