OmniFace Posted August 29, 2019 Share Posted August 29, 2019 My band is looking at using wireless in-ear monitors live in a stereo setup. We already use wired in-ears for practice, but for live we're just using amps at the moment. For practice I currently use the "Double Tracker" on my Line 6 Vetta II to get some great stereo separation in our mix. I'm now looking to switch to the Helix Floor and a couple L6 PowerCabs, and a wireless in-ear system. I'm curious, can I split the path in the Helix so that one side heads out to the L6 Link digital outs, and the other side first goes into the Doubler FX block, and then to the XLR? That way I can have a MONO signal output to the PowerCabs and House to avoid the phase issues, while having the doubled STEREO signal headed to my in-ears which have 100% stereo separation. I tried simulating this in Helix Native, but the Output blocks are disabled for obvious reasons. Helix Edit seems to require having the hardware already, so I couldn't mess with it to see. L6-Link > PowerCab / / L6-Link > PowerCab / \ / XLR-L > House guitar > amp+cab > split \ XLR-L > X32-i1 > In-Ear-L \ / \ Doubler FX \ XLR-R > X32-i2 > In-Ear-R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 The Helix has 2 separate paths, each you can split once (then you have 4 outputs in mono or stereo). Or you can send the signal from path1 into path2(then only 2 outputs). What do you mean by "House"? But if you use the left XLR for your In-Ear, you cannot use it for your "House" You have 2 options: 1.(needs more DSP) /Digital (L6-Link) / PATH1: guitar > amp+cab \ \ 1/4 (House???) PATH2: guitar > amp+cab > Doubler FX-- XLR(stereo) 2. / Digital(L6-Link) / PATH1+2: guitar > amp+cab \ \ Doubler FX -- XLR(stereo L+R) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmniFace Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 5 hours ago, Peter said: What do you mean by "House"? But if you use the left XLR for your In-Ear, you cannot use it for your "House" The PowerCab amps have XLR outputs on them that send the incoming signal out, either unaffected, or altered by their speaker and apparently additional mic modeling. (I'm looking at the 212 Plus model) So, the path for that side is Helix to L6 Link out, L6 Link in on the PowerCab, and XLR out on the PowerCab to the main house PA. I can also take the L6 Link out on the PowerCab and daisy chain to a second PowerCab. That way the cab gets a mono signal, and sends it to the house as well. Meanwhile, the XLR on the Helix would feed the in-ear system... Since you confirmed the Helix can have 4 separate mono outs effectively, this should be possible. Based on your diagram above, option 2 is exactly what I need. The top path will feed the PowerCab, and daisy chain to the house. The bottom path will feed my in-ears. If you, or someone doesn't mind, could you set that up in Helix Edit and take a screen grab so I can see how the routing actually works in the unit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted August 30, 2019 Share Posted August 30, 2019 24 minutes ago, guitars69 said: The PowerCab amps have XLR outputs on them that send the incoming signal out, either unaffected, or altered by their speaker and apparently additional mic modeling. (I'm looking at the 212 Plus model) So, the path for that side is Helix to L6 Link out, L6 Link in on the PowerCab, and XLR out on the PowerCab to the main house PA. I can also take the L6 Link out on the PowerCab and daisy chain to a second PowerCab. That way the cab gets a mono signal, and sends it to the house as well. Meanwhile, the XLR on the Helix would feed the in-ear system... Since you confirmed the Helix can have 4 separate mono outs effectively, this should be possible. Based on your diagram above, option 2 is exactly what I need. The top path will feed the PowerCab, and daisy chain to the house. The bottom path will feed my in-ears. If you, or someone doesn't mind, could you set that up in Helix Edit and take a screen grab so I can see how the routing actually works in the unit? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OmniFace Posted August 30, 2019 Author Share Posted August 30, 2019 Thanks @Peter! Really appreciate it. That's cool to see that I'd still have access to Path 2 and the extra blocks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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