Julian1609 Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 Hey Guys! So my Band recently went full on helix lt which means we want to use the helix of our singer/rhythm guitarist for vocal fx and guitar. We have two Singers in total which both use a shure wireless mic-system. So I thought that because the wireless uses line level, we could plug the two systems into the fx returns (and a clean signal to mix with foh) and use them for vocal stuff like telephone fx or delays. Next to that, our singer two sounds in total. 1. is just a distorted sound in mono (1 Amp + IR + TS808) 2. Is the same but with the Helix double take activated. We imagine that the two XLR outs are for the mic fx and the two 6,3mm output jacks go through a stereo DI for the guitar. For direct control this is quite a simple setup right? just using the vocal fx + double take + both Mic-Inputs in Stompmode. But now the tricky part begins... Everything has to be MIDI controllable. I´ve been working with Midi for my own Helix in Snapshot mode together with the DAW Reaper but now I need help to understand how to control the stomps in Stompmode with midi. For example this scenario will occur in our setlist: Singer 1 has a telephone fx on his voice while singer 2 is muted.. Some moments later the telephone fx will be switched out with a delay and extra reverb (2 stomps) while the guitar turns on the double take . So both paths have three stomps in total which have to be switched at the exact moment. Do I have to use own midi-automation lines in reaper for every stomp in stompmode to activate and deactivate? Thanks alot for your help guys! Greetings from Germany! - Worgram Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 If I understand you, create snapshots with the required Stomps active or bypassed, then in Reaper send the snapshot MIDI (CC#069 + Value 0-7 for Snapshots 1-8). Since Helix does not by default send the Snapshot MIDI, you can't record it directly as you could with Preset changes (PC#s), so you'll have to enter it into Reaper's MIDI track manually at the correct point in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian1609 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 Hey, @rd2rk Not completely, sorry ^^ I cannot use snapshots only for this helix because the fx have to be controlled completely seperated. For example If I would turn the vocal delay on/off with a snapshot, the state of the amplifier and the double take would be also switched, so I have to use these fx with stomp mode. My basic question is: do I have to use separate midi-automation lines for every stomp and how do I program them to turn off and on at separate points? Switching Snapshots via midi is quite easy for me but I don´t know how to turn off/on single stomps in Stomp Mode via midi. Anyway, thank you @rd2rk for your help :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rd2rk Posted October 4, 2019 Share Posted October 4, 2019 FS1-11 = CC#49-58 Value 127=ON Value 0=OFF Toeswitch = CC#59 I imagine that if you want all the stomps to switch at one time without using snapshots you'd need to use separate midi tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Julian1609 Posted October 4, 2019 Author Share Posted October 4, 2019 @rd2rk, Yeah that seems correct, have to do that... man it´s quite complicated to program three helix lts with midi haha :) Anyway, thank you for you help man :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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