Use IR-plug while recording with HX Stomp to save blocks

[Fierce_Swe]

Hi guys!

 

I'm new to the forum here and sorry if this topic is allready discussed (couldn't find it though)

I'm just a few seconds of from buying a HX Stomp since I want a portable sullotion for recording when not at home.

 

My question is; can I use an IR-plugin in my DAW to save blocks or does the placement in the chain affect the tone or doesn't it matter? I'm planning to get the Helix Native as a complement and I have a Kemper as well but I'm curious on how much I could do with the HX stomp before I ran out of DSP-power.

 

I love my Kemper but the it's not that user friendly and I wan't to shape my tones by myself, not just buy profiles!

 

Thanx!

Niclas

[cruisinon2]

3 hours ago, Fierce_Swe said:

My question is; can I use an IR-plugin in my DAW to save blocks or does the placement in the chain affect the tone or doesn't it matter?

 

Yes, you can use an IR plug-in. And yes, where you put things in the signal chain matters, to a greater or lesser extent.  As the IR would be after the Stomp entirely, your speaker sim would be happening after any effects in your signal chain... reverbs, delays, etc... which may or may not matter to you. Then again, if you're recording, you generally want to capture everything dry anyway, and add FX after the fact...so it's probably a moot point. Depends on how you like to do things.

 

 

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I'm planning to get the Helix Native as a complement.

 

With Native, you really don't have to worry about running out of blocks, and you wouldn't need to load IR's in your DAW... you still could, but it certainly wouldn't be necessary.

[Fierce_Swe]

Ok! IThanks for the answer!!! :)

 think I will do a test later and compare how it sounds when you switch order...

[SaschaFranck]

Note: If you were using a plugin IR loader, you'd have to go for software monitoring in your sequencer of choice. That may open up a can of worms, especially as the latency of the HX family isn't all too great to start with already. Further plugins may add more latency and in order to keep things acceptably low you'd probably have to stick with 64 samples buffersize - anything higher might start to feel a tad disconnected when using headphones. At least that's what it's like for me.

I would rather try to not use delays and reverbs while recording - usually you don't want to record them anyway and there's a rather elegant way to have them on your signal while recording without compromising the low latency of your directly monitored signal. It's a little different in different sequencers but basically you would use software monitoring but drag the channel fader down to zero (some sequencers have dedicated input fader objects, which makes things a lot more comfortable) and set up a pre fader send to a 100% wet reverb/delay bus. That way, the only part of your signal affected by the higher software monitoring latency would be the wet return of your room FX - and it really doesn't matter much on these (if at all).