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using the Helix with a synergy syn1 and my guitar amp


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I was wondering how to hook up my helix with the syn 1 and my guitar amp. I looked all over the and cant find out how to make it so I can add extra channels to my amp with the synergy but bypass it to use the channels on my amp and still use the helix for pre and post effects. 

 

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Guitar>Helix Input>Effects>Helix Amp>FX Loop 1 Block>Helix Send 1>Amp Input>Amp FX Loop Send>Helix Return 1>Effects>Helix Left/Mono Out>Amp FX Loop Return

 

When you want to use a Helix amp instead of the SYN1, insert the Helix amp before the FX Loop Block. Set the Helix amp OFF and the FX Loop Block ON. Assign a Stomp pedal to (same one) to both. Save the Preset. When the FX Loop Block is ON the Helix Amp will be OFF. When the FX Loop Block is OFF the Helix Amp will be ON and your SYN1 will be bypassed.

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Ok 2 parts I dont understand what do you mean effects and helix amp? Sorry if I sound dumb here. I have a Peters amp head that I want to use the clean channel on with effects chorus, delay etc. And use the syn1 for the distortion channel with effects also I called sweetwater and there technical support team was stumped so now the only way I can use the syn1 and helix is through just the power amp of my amp.

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10 hours ago, ocd123 said:

Ok 2 parts I dont understand what do you mean effects and helix amp? Sorry if I sound dumb here. I have a Peters amp head that I want to use the clean channel on with effects chorus, delay etc. And use the syn1 for the distortion channel with effects also I called sweetwater and there technical support team was stumped so now the only way I can use the syn1 and helix is through just the power amp of my amp.

 

You have three types of amps. Your Peters, your Syn1 and the many amp models contained in Helix (Are you using the Floor, Rack (with or without controller?), HXFX or HX Stomp?).

Effects are those other things modeled in your Helix - distortions, flangers, delays etc.

 

Attached is a preset that demonstrates how to do what you want.

Wire it like this:

Helix FX Loop 1 SEND>Peters INPUT>Peters FX SEND>Helix FX Loop 1 RETURN

Helix FX Loop 2 SEND>Syn1 INPUT>Syn1 FX SEND>Helix FX Loop 2 RETURN

Helix L/MONO OUT>Peters FX RETURN

 

Snapshot 1 - Peters Pre - Signal flow:

Helix Input>DISTORTION(default OFF)>FX Loop 1 SEND>Peters Input>Peters FX Send>FX Loop 1 Return>DELAY(default ON)>Peters FX RETURN

 

Snapshot 2 - Syn1 Pre - Signal Flow:

Helix Input>DISTORTION(default OFF)>FX Loop 2 SEND>Syn1 Input>Syn1 FX Send>FX Loop 2 Return>DELAY(default ON)>Peters FX RETURN

 

Use shielded cables all around. Plug all devices into a single filtered surge strip to (hopefully) avoid ground loops.

You'll need to set the FX Loop SEND levels in Global Settings>INS/OUTS to INSTRUMENT. Set the RETURN levels to INSTRUMENT or LINE, whichever works best.

 

EDIT: from the Syn1 Manual:

 

* IMPORTANT - if placing the SYN-1 on top of a head cabinet or combo, you MUST place the SYN-1 on the opposite side of your amp's main transformer (usually the inputside). Placing the SYN-1 overthe mains transformer may cause noise to enterthe signal chain.

 

 

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