Headrush 108 or 112?

[molul]

Ok, this might have been discussed a lot already, but I've visited like 50 different topics in different forums and can't find a clear answer, so I thought I would post it here.

 

I play on an alt-rock band (a mix of Radiohead, Smashing Pumpkins, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Muse...). Drums, bass, keys, two guitars and vocals. Would either the headrush 108 or 112 be enough for rehearsing in a 20m² space?

 

For live performance I'm less concerned, as I think I could just put a mic on the speaker or connect the output to the PA (please correct me if I'm wrong).

 

I would like to get the 108 if it's enough, but if it wasn't, I can just get the 112.

 

Thanksin advance :)

[HonestOpinion]

Really depends on your preferences regarding weight, volume, price, size, and tone. I use other FRFRs for gigs and rehearsals(not since covid19, sigh) but I also have the Headrush 108. So far I have only used it for practice and small jams because it is ultra portable. Unless your band is really loud in rehearsal I think it would work fine if that is the one you prefer. Both the 108 and the 112 have the same power rating so the volume difference is probably not that great anyhow excepting the larger speaker on the 112 pushing more air. Both models can get quite loud though. Mounting either one on a short speaker stand would make it easier for the band and you to hear.

 

You could go to the board from the Headrush 108's XLR out but you can also just have two separate feeds from you HX device. One to the 108 and one to FOH. Although you can mic the 108, IMHO there are better alternatives going direct. You could easily put your 108 in your bandmates' monitors but if you can't do that and think that your band will be too loud live on stage for the 108 or more to the point if you prefer more bottom end I would just get the 112 and use it for rehearsal and live. Or you could just get a Powercab :-)

[DunedinDragon]

A couple of other notes here:

I think you need to get a new perspective,  your stage speaker whether it's a 108 or the 112 would easily fill the space you're talking about.  In a live environment you generally won't be depending on your stage speaker to fill the audience space.  That's what a PA is for.  The LAST thing in the world you'd want to do is try to mic a powered speaker as you'd totally negate the value of the speaker and it would sound like crap through the PA.  Remember, the sound you're producing from the Helix is the sound of a amp through a mic'd cabinet, so you don't want to add layers to that with yet another mic of the speaker which is producing an accurate representation of the mic'd cabinet from the Helix.  Generally you would do what HonestOpinion said and feed a direct XLR line to the board whether that be from the speaker or from the Helix.  Your stage speaker only needs to be loud enough to fill the stage if you're using a PA.  In fact, the more anyone in the group breaks that rule the harder it will be for the sound guy to get a good mix of the band for the audience.

There are plenty of folks using 108's and lots using 112's, so either would likely work.  However bear in mind that a LOT of people have problems with these speakers sounding boomy from too much low end when placed on the floor due to an acoustic artifact known as "bass coupling".  You can correct this by putting the speaker on a pole, or you can choose to go to a higher end and more professional speaker which has DSP contouring adjustments to correct for such things.  What you should NEVER do is try and correct for that boominess by adjusting the Helix as that adjustment would mess up the sound for the front speakers on the PA also.  Granted, the Headrush has a low price, but you get what you pay for.

[molul]

Thank you very much! To clarify a bit, I'm aiming to having to carry less weight on future gigs. That's the main goal. I currently have a Fender hot rod deluxe (that I don't push further than 2'5 while rehearsing) and it's really heavy. The headrush solutions are appealing to me for being much more portable and for taking advantage of the amp emulation in the Helix.

 

I want to go that route but I want to be sure I won't buy a useless device. And while money is not a problem, I also don't want to buy something really powerful that I won't actually fully use.

 

Line6 Poweramp looks cool but I wonder if I need that much power.

 

I would love to test whatever FRFR available, but guitar stores have almost disappeared in my city, and the few that are still open usually get these products on demand, and only if you really want to buy.

 

So I guess I would only need to know which FRFR monitor is powerful enough for rehearsing in an alt-rock/prog-rock band (and I guess we make the usual noise in this genre). But I understand it's not really easy to answer :)