Different Amps in the Snapshot or at least other drive, etc. settings (amp) possible?

[Woarno]

Do I have to make two different presets to do that, or is possible to use different amps, or the set amp with different settings in the snapshot function? All that worked for me so far, was deactivating it in one snapshot. Before I bought the POD Go, I was using a Korg AX1500g, where it was possible to switch between clean and distorted in every single preset (more or less).

[silverhead]

Every preset has a fixed selection of amp, cab, and FX blocks. So you can’t switch amp models between snapshots; a preset can have only one amp model.
 

Snapshots allow you to change virtually any parameter settings for all of the amp/FX blocks. So you can arrange to have tones from clean to crunch to heavy distortion by adjusting associated settings on those blocks in the snapshots.

[voxman55]

On 3/11/2022 at 10:32 PM, Woarno said:

Do I have to make two different presets to do that, or is possible to use different amps, or the set amp with different settings in the snapshot function? All that worked for me so far, was deactivating it in one snapshot. Before I bought the POD Go, I was using a Korg AX1500g, where it was possible to switch between clean and distorted in every single preset (more or less).

 

I think you might be referring to A/B switching* that I've mentioned below.

 

Just to expand on Silverheads post above, the AX1500g 'Toneworks' is the Korg predecessor on which the Vox Tonelab LE was based on (I have the TLLE - the TLLE has the Vox Valvereactor circuitry with 12AX7 valve that the AX1500g doesn't) In both these units you can select 1 option from each of the amp/cab*, modulation, reverb, and delay sections, and one further option from the pedal section that includes some distortion options. If you choose eg wah from that section, you can't have a distortion.  There are somethings you can do in Toneworks that Pod Go can't do, but Pod Go has more versatility overall with significantly more (and more sophisticated/updated) amp/cab/fx models and can do things the Toneworks/TLLE can't do. The snap-shots in Pod Go allow you to vary every patch in a whole host of ways as @Silverhead has said.  for example, you can change delay parameters to be a long delay in one snap, and a short delay in another. You can change any of the other parameters too including mix level. So in a single patch you could if you wanted to have 4 variations of your delay.  But it has to be the same delay model because snapshots are merely a way to vary what's in your patch.

Whilst you can't change the amp model in a snapshot, you can however change your microphone, microphone settings, or if you are using third-party IRs, you can select a different IR in each snap. This means that aside from tweaks to the amp parameter settings, you can still make your amp model sound fundamentally very different even in the same snapshot.  

 

* The Ax1500g has a metronome and a phrase trainer although Pod Go has a looper. 

It also has A/B switching that I have in my Tonelab SE but Vox didn't include in the Tonelab LE which was a real shame. This lets you switch between two different amp/cab models in the same patch which is an excellent feature and I think this might be what you were referring to ie in the same patch you can switch between a clean Fender model through eg a 2x12 cab, and a cranked Marshall gain model through a 4x12 cab. 

 

TLLE has an additional control footswitch that allows you to eg 'kick-on/off' an fx (eg distortion), in any mode without having to come out of patch-mode - I'm not 100% sure but I don't believe the Ax1500g has this as it doesn't appear to have a control switch. Pod Go can't do that directly from the unit itself, but it can if you add external momentary foot-switches to FS7/8. Whilst you won't see these in the Pod Go display and you won't usually have an LED indicator on such switches, FS7/8 can do anything that FS1-6 can do with the advantage that these function in any mode.  I often set one for a solo or distortion boost.

  

 

 

 

[Woarno]

Thank you for your help. How does the momentary switch on FS7/8 work on the POD Go? Do I need to hold the switch down as long as I want the change to occur or does the POD Go changes the sound until I press it again? And do you have any suggestions on which switch to use? Found the Boss FS-5U for example.

 

 

[voxman55]

On 3/12/2022 at 1:45 PM, Woarno said:

Thank you for your help. How does the momentary switch on FS7/8 work on the POD Go? Do I need to hold the switch down as long as I want the change to occur or does the POD Go changes the sound until I press it again? And do you have any suggestions on which switch to use? Found the Boss FS-5U for example.

 

 

 

Although these are unlatched momentary switches, they function as on/off just as per the normal Pod Go onboard foot-switches.  I use the Bespeco VM20 switches that are virtually identical to the Boss FS-5U but are less than half the price - same tough metal casing, polarity switch, smooth silent switching & interlocking design.  You need to connect via a 'Y' Stereo TSR (Tip Sleeve Ring) cable where the single end is TSR - these cables can be identified by the red and black colours for the two other ends - red denotes FS7 ('tip), black denotes FS8 ('ring').  You shouldn't need to change the polarity switches.  You'll need to set Pod Go to recognise FS7/8 - Global Settings > Switches/Pedals > EXP 2 FS7/8 is set to “FS7/8.”

 

[Woarno]

On 3/12/2022 at 3:22 PM, voxman55 said:

 

Although these are unlatched momentary switches, they function as on/off just as per the normal Pod Go onboard foot-switches.  I use the Bespeco VM20 switches that are virtually identical to the Boss FS-5U but are less than half the price - same tough metal casing, polarity switch, smooth silent switching & interlocking design.  You need to connect via a 'Y' Stereo TSR (Tip Sleeve Ring) cable where the single end is TSR - these cables can be identified by the red and black colours for the two other ends - red denotes FS7 ('tip), black denotes FS8 ('ring').  You shouldn't need to change the polarity switches.  You'll need to set Pod Go to recognise FS7/8 - Global Settings > Switches/Pedals > EXP 2 FS7/8 is set to “FS7/8.”

 

Many thanks for your help bought the Boss FS07, because it is small and powered by a power supply unit. I am looking forward to play with it and my line6 Pod Go.

[voxman55]

On 3/14/2022 at 11:00 PM, Woarno said:

Many thanks for your help bought the Boss FS07, because it is small and powered by a power supply unit. I am looking forward to play with it and my line6 Pod Go.

 

I think you mean the Boss FS7. 

 

Yes, it's footprint is a little more compact than 2x Bespeco VM20/Boss FS5U switches (these pedals require no power).  But the power supply is only to light the FS7's led's -  it works as a momentary switch without needing power.  These are £59 in the UK i.e. over double the price of 2xVM20's, but the power supply costs extra, around £23 for the Boss PSA and even a non-Boss PSU would be around £10.  I looked at this myself but didn't get it because:

 

1. It's expensive

2. Annoyingly there is no battery option so if I wanted to light the LED's, I'd need an extra power supply and extra mains/extension cable socket to plug into.  That's a lot of extra cost and faffing around just to see an LED. 

3. I'm not a fan of the 'one over the other' switch layout and much prefer 'side-by-side'.  That's because in a live situation I found you can accidentally hit 'B' when you press 'A'.  A friend of mine has the Boss ME80 that has similar pedals and I found it awkward.  The FS7 was designed to save space and go on a pedal-board, which is why it comes with a power-splitter cable to use with a pedal-board power supply.  As I just wanted to use it with my Pod Go, not a pedal board, I''d be stuck with having to use a power-supply if I wanted the LED function. 

 

Personally I prefer the Boss FS6 which is battery powered to light the LED's & is the same size as 2xFS5U's or VM20's.  (Only thing you'd have to remember to do is unplug the cable when not in use or the battery will drain over time - but power drain is minimal though).  As I already had my 2 VM20's from years back when I had a Boss GT3, I just used these.   

 

But if none of the above is an issue for you, then the FS7 is fine.  

 

[Woarno]

On 3/15/2022 at 1:43 AM, voxman55 said:

 

I think you mean the Boss FS7. 

 

Yes, it's footprint is a little more compact than 2x Bespeco VM20/Boss FS5U switches (these pedals require no power).  But the power supply is only to light the FS7's led's -  it works as a momentary switch without needing power.  These are £59 in the UK i.e. over double the price of 2xVM20's, but the power supply costs extra, around £23 for the Boss PSA and even a non-Boss PSU would be around £10.  I looked at this myself but didn't get it because:

 

1. It's expensive

2. Annoyingly there is no battery option so if I wanted to light the LED's, I'd need an extra power supply and extra mains/extension cable socket to plug into.  That's a lot of extra cost and faffing around just to see an LED. 

3. I'm not a fan of the 'one over the other' switch layout and much prefer 'side-by-side'.  That's because in a live situation I found you can accidentally hit 'B' when you press 'A'.  A friend of mine has the Boss ME80 that has similar pedals and I found it awkward.  The FS7 was designed to save space and go on a pedal-board, which is why it comes with a power-splitter cable to use with a pedal-board power supply.  As I just wanted to use it with my Pod Go, not a pedal board, I''d be stuck with having to use a power-supply if I wanted the LED function. 

 

Personally I prefer the Boss FS6 which is battery powered to light the LED's & is the same size as 2xFS5U's or VM20's.  (Only thing you'd have to remember to do is unplug the cable when not in use or the battery will drain over time - but power drain is minimal though).  As I already had my 2 VM20's from years back when I had a Boss GT3, I just used these.   

 

But if none of the above is an issue for you, then the FS7 is fine.  

 

You are right. I should have taken the FS-6. But I am keeping the FS-7, because of the portability. What I have not got yet is, how do I bind the FS7 and 8 as an A/B switch? What do I have to setup in the software as you do, to switch between live and rythm, for example? I have done what you suggested: Global Settings > Switches/Pedals > EXP 2 FS7/8 is set to “FS7/8.” But I am not certain how to bind them now. The POD Go is still very new to me. But maybe it is about the FS-7 itself. There is an Y-cable for the power supply provided, but I did not buy the PSA AC Adapter, that is not included. In the manual of the FS-7 it is said, that a power supply is needed to use the momentary switch mode. The line6 power supply would work, because it has the same socket as the provided Y-Parallel-DC-Cable. The voltage is the same, but the FS-7 only has a rating of 25 mA. I am not certain if I can use the line 6 power supply to power the Boss and the Pod go at the same time.  The line 6 power suppy is providing 650mA and the Boss PSA power supply 500mA. I have not found out what the power consumption of the POD Go is to calculate if I may could damage the FS-7, when using the Line 6 power supply.  If I could use the line6 one, I would save a lot of money.

[voxman55]

Neither the Boss FS7 or Boss FS6 need a power supply to function as a momentary switch. The power supply only lights the LEDs.  With my 2 Bespeco pedals it needs a stereo TSR Y cable.  I'm assuming you'll need the same with the FS6 and FS7. 

[Woarno]

On 3/17/2022 at 9:30 PM, voxman55 said:

Neither the Boss FS7 or Boss FS6 need a power supply to function as a momentary switch. The power supply only lights the LEDs.  With my 2 Bespeco pedals it needs a stereo TSR Y cable.  I'm assuming you'll need the same with the FS6 and FS7. 

You are right. And I found out how it works. It is just a really great feature equipping a FS. Makes the POD Go a lot better. Thank you for your help voxman.