Feel my joy....two guitars into Stomp

[adagosto]

So this post cannot be considered "news" by any stretch and there's no questions in here either. I just wanted to post what might be obvious to some and interesting to others....and so you can feel my joy over this success story!!

 

So I happen to have a Carvin semi hollow that has two outputs, one for the humbuckers and one for the piezo. I also have a Vox AC30 and a Genz Benz acoustic amp. But I've never been able to get them to play together. I have the Vox connected via 4CM.

 

So what I did was connected the piezo guitar out and into the Right Input. Then the Right output of the Stomp into the front of the Genz Benz.

 

Next I created a Split-Y and paned A to L100 and B to R100. Same with the Mixer. In the output section I did the same with the panning and then assigned the Foot switch to toggle (Latch) the left and right outputs.

 

It's pretty slick! I have the A path for electric and that includes a distortion block and my FX Loop L block the is for my Vox preamp. Path B has a compressor and EQ block. Then after the mixer I added a Modulation, Delay and Reveb block. So the last three blocks are "shared" by either amp.

 

I think I will now create a Snapshot that pans the output to Center and that will have both amps going.

 

This happens to be on the Stomp XL, but it's all the same with the smaller unit. I've got to say, this is an amazing piece of gear!!

[craiganderton]

Hmmm...now you've inspired me to want to try the same thing with my Rickenbacker's Rick-O-Sound outputs. Cool!

[adagosto]

RIGHT!!

Similar kinda thing.

[coachz]

Could the pre stomp setup have achieved the same result with a DI?

[adagosto]

On 3/14/2022 at 9:38 AM, coachz said:

Could the pre stomp setup have achieved the same result with a DI?

 

Yes and no.

First yes. Yeah you can do this with a A/B/Y box and even do it post Stomp. But....here's the no....

 

No because, while the A/B/Y box might control the signal, it will not control the Stomp preset or Snapshot, unless....

 

If the A/B/Y box was also MIDI controllable, then Yes to your question in full. But, for the cost of an ML-5 and a Stomp, gotta question not just getting a Helix LT or Floor, but that another story.

[adagosto]

I have to correct my initial post. Unfortunately, I'm a little wrong about things, but maybe some smart dude out there an explain how to do it....

 

I mentioned that I had a mod, delay and reverb block at the end and those are shared. The weird thing is, as soon as any one of those blocks are activated, the entire signal becomes blended. I don't really understand why as the Split-Y is panned, and the mixer is panned and the output is panned, but that's what happens.

 

The signals are split and it's perfect right up to the point I turn on a block after the mixer.

 

So, to work around that, each Path needs its own mod, delay and reverb block. I'm finding I'm running out of blocks now.

 

I'll keep playing with it. But if anyone knows how to do this and share blocks, ease do tell!!!

 

EDIT:

I went back and changed the three blocks AFTER the Mixer to Stereo blocks and everything works as hoped. So I'm back to being good :)

[coachz]

From what I'm reading you  can control the pan of Split Blocks and merge blocks using controllers whether it be a snapshot controller or a foot switch controller.   Is that what you're doing and have you assigned a controller to the parameters you want to control 1st?

[adagosto]

On 3/14/2022 at 1:55 PM, coachz said:

From what I'm reading you  can control the pan of Split Blocks and merge blocks using controllers whether it be a snapshot controller or a foot switch controller.   Is that what you're doing and have you assigned a controller to the parameters you want to control 1st?

 

This is not exactly what I'm doing. Let me explain more.

Immediately out of the Input (so the very first thing that happens) is a Split-Y. I get that by adding an LA Comp and moving it to Path B.

• So for Path A, my first block is the FX Loop L, then an Overdrive block then a Noise Gate block.
• And for Path B, I have a LA Comp and an EQ 10-band block.
• I then move my Mixer right after the 10-band EQ.
• After the Mixer I have a Stereo modulation, stereo Delay and Stereo Reverb

Ok, back the the Split-Y. I pan the Path A hard left and the Path B, hard right. I do the same with the Mixer. That's a set it-and forget it kinda think. I don't touch those anymore.

 

Now move over to the Output section. I pan Path A hard left and Pan Path B hard right. Then I assign the Pan to Footswitch Latch. I have it on Footswitch 1. But this can be assigned to a Snapshot if you want. So the FS1 now toggles between the two amps. I'm thinking an even better way to do this is with Snapshots because then I can have:

• SS #11 = Amp 1
• SS #2 = Amp 2
• SS #3 = both (Output set to Center). That might be fun!

I hope this makes sense. If needed I guess I can find a way to export it and upload it for you.

[coachz]

Sounds great.  Stomp xl to infinity