aviera78 Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 I got the HX Stomp for it to provide my modulation effects and amp/cab simulation going into an FRFR speaker My pedal chain Going into HX Stomp instrument input Peterson Strobestomp HD - Hotone Soul Press 2 Wah - Keeley Compressor plus - MXR Poly Blue Octave/Fuzz - Ibanez TS9 - Fullone OCD - EHX Big Muff Pi Wicker to HX Stomp Input Line 6 HX Stomp Send - TC Electronics Flashback 2 - Boss RV6 - Return to HX Stomp HX Stomp to Boss RC10R to FRFR Speaker What I want is for the HX Stomp to be my modulation effects and amp/cab modulation. To set it up I would this?? Instrument input - Amp/Cab or Preamp - Modulation effects - Send/Return loop - Output Does this make sense?? Would you set it up differently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviera78 Posted December 7, 2023 Author Share Posted December 7, 2023 On 12/6/2023 at 4:22 PM, aviera78 said: I got the HX Stomp for it to provide my modulation effects and amp/cab simulation going into an FRFR speaker My pedal chain Going into HX Stomp instrument input Peterson Strobestomp HD - Hotone Soul Press 2 Wah - Keeley Compressor plus - MXR Poly Blue Octave/Fuzz - Ibanez TS9 - Fullone OCD - EHX Big Muff Pi Wicker to HX Stomp Input Line 6 HX Stomp Send - TC Electronics Flashback 2 - Boss RV6 - Return to HX Stomp HX Stomp to Boss RC10R to FRFR Speaker What I want is for the HX Stomp to be my modulation effects and amp/cab modulation. To set it up I would this?? Instrument input - Amp/Cab or Preamp - Modulation effects - Send/Return loop - Output Does this make sense?? Would you set it up differently? What I want is for the HX Stomp to be my modulation effects and amp/cab modulation. To set it up I would set the patch like this?? All in mono for now. Instrument input - Amp/Cab or Preamp - Modulation effects - Send/Return loop - EQ - Compressor - Output Maybe EQ followed by compressor at the end to even out and tighten up. Does this make sense?? Would you set it up differently? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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datacommando Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 3:17 PM, aviera78 said: bump If you plugged it all in and it works then that’s all you need! You don’t need anyone else to confirm it. Hope this helps/makes sense. bump! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou-kash Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 On 12/7/2023 at 4:32 PM, aviera78 said: Would you set it up differently? Since you're already asking… Yes! Because I have bought the Stomp so that I don't need anything else in the first place. ;) Not even an amp. But that's just me… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviera78 Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 3:34 PM, datacommando said: If you plugged it all in and it works then that’s all you need! You don’t need anyone else to confirm it. Hope this helps/makes sense. bump! I explained the physical chain for context and how it relates to the patch. It’s my first time setting up digital patches on a multieffects. That’s why I asked… yes, connecting everything makes it sound. Doesn’t mean it’s right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aviera78 Posted December 9, 2023 Author Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/8/2023 at 4:36 PM, lou-kash said: Since you're already asking… Yes! Because I have bought the Stomp so that I don't need anything else in the first place. ;) Not even an amp. But that's just me… Good for you. I actually prefer turning knobs on the pedals I used the most without having to navigate through menus. The HX Stomp is to provide modulation effects I use sparingly and amp cab simulation so I don’t have to be carrying amps. The question is not about the physical chain it’s about the patch. instrument input - amp/cab - modulation - send/return - output maybe an eq and a compressor at the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
datacommando Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 1:47 AM, aviera78 said: I explained the physical chain for context and how it relates to the patch. It’s my first time setting up digital patches on a multieffects. That’s why I asked… yes, connecting everything makes it sound. Doesn’t mean it’s right. Hi, My point is (and was) that this sort of thing is entirely subjective. There is no right and wrong - if it sounds good, then it is good. Only you can decide if the audio that goes in at one end of the signal chain, and come out of the other, is what you want to hear. If not, then move things around until you get what you are chasing. There are many ways to approach this sort of signal routing. The general consensus being that usually you would place any overdrive and/or distortion effects before any amp/cab, then follow this with any time based effects (modulation, delay, reverb). Add EQ, compression etc., where ever seems to give the desired, or best results. Having said that, it is entirely feasible that you could have, for example, chorus, delay and reverb before the amp stage, as per some “shoegaze” bands. Personally, looking at the hardware boxes that you have, you could make life a lot easier by simply using the HX Stomp and your BOSS Loop Station. It would be a lot more compact and portable. Also the HX Stomp has digital equivalents your Ibanez TS9, Fulltone OCD, EHX Big Muff Pi, along side stacks of stereo Delays and Reverbs all built in. Have a play around with building some patches in the HX Stomp and lighten your load. Maybe @lou-kash is correct when he states the HX Stomp is a one stop solution - a lot less cables, batteries, power supplies etc. Other than that - you suggested: Instrument input - Amp/Cab or Preamp - Modulation effects - Send/Return loop - EQ - Compressor - Output Maybe EQ followed by compressor at the end to even out and tighten up. Does this make sense? Answer: Yes it does, but only if that is what you want to achieve! There are no rules! Hope this helps/makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lou-kash Posted December 9, 2023 Share Posted December 9, 2023 On 12/9/2023 at 2:57 AM, aviera78 said: a compressor at the end A compressor at the end will massively reduce the signal to noise ratio, i.e. increase noise. For guitars, compressors are best placed at the very beginning of the chain, with the exception of effects that rely on dynamic input like autowah and may work best when placed first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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