Snapshot latch mode weirdness

[loonsailor]

I'm trying to use snapshots on my HX Effects box for the first time, and the latching is confusing me. I'd like to put it in a mode where I've got the four snapshots always visible on the switches, so I set the global parameter switches/snapshot mode to "latch". But, when I select a snapshot it still always goes back to stomp box mode, showing me all the effects. If I then push "mode", it goes back to showing me the four snapshots. When I set it to "momentary", it works the same, ,except now when I push "mode" it goes back to preset selection.

I have preset selection set to momentary, and I'd like to keep it that way. If I set preset selection to latch, then go to snapshot mode, it works the way I want, always keeping the four snapshots on the four buttons. But now, preset selection becomes more difficult.

Is there any I can leave presets in momentary mode, and have snapshots in true latch mode, where it doesn't keep going back to stomp?  Why is the snapshot behavior dependent upon the preset behavior?

 

 

There are 4 scenarios.

 

(1) preset mode momentary, snapshot mode latch:

select a snapshot -> snapshot selected, now in stomp mode (why?)

press mode -> back to select a snapshot

press bank up & down -> select a preset

(2) preset mode latch, snapshot mode latch

select a snapshot -> still in snapshot select mode (this is what I want)

press mode -> stomp mode

press bank up&down (from snapshot select) -> preset select mode

(3) preset mode momentary, snapshot mode momentary

select a snapshot -> snapshot selected, now in stomp mode

press mode -> preset select mode

(4) preset mode latch, snapshot mode momentary

select a snapshot -> now in preset select mode?? (why???)

 

What I want, is for snapshot select to remain on the switches when snapshot mode is latch, regardless of what the preset mode is. In other words, it should act like it does when preset mode is latch, regardless of what the preset mode is. When the global options are in scenario 1, snapshots should act like they do in scenario 2. In fact, I don't really understand why you'd ever want snapshot mode to be momentary. Isn't the whole idea is that snapshots are useful for live performance? When would you not want them to remain available after selecting one?The behavior in scenario 4 makes no sense to me at all.

Am I missing something?  Or do I need to decide between having snapshots work the way I want or having presets work the way I want?  Again, why is the snapshot behavior dependent upon the preset behavior?

 

 

 

 

[silverhead]

I know you’ve reviewed the Global Settings -> Switches/Pedals options but you may be missing something there. The manual is very helpful in this regard.

[loonsailor]

I had read the manual, but just looked at it again.  Here, on p47, are the relevant sections:

 

3    Preset Mode

When set to “Moment[ary],” the HX Effects device returns to Stomp mode as soon as a Preset (or Snapshot) switch is pressed. When set to
“Latch[ing],” the HX Effects device stays in Preset (or Snapshot) mode and the user must press MODE to switch back to Stomp mode.
2
1 Snpsht Mode
When set to “Moment[ary],” the HX Effects device returns to Preset mode (or Stomp mode if Pg 1 > Knob 3 [Preset Mode] is set to “Moment[ary]”) after select-
ing a snapshot. When set to “Latch[ing],” the HX Effects unit stays in Snapshot mode until pressing + to return to Preset mode (or MODE/EDIT/EXIT to
return to Stomp mode).
 

The section on snapshot mode says that, when set to Latch, it behaves exactly as I want, with no reference how preset mode is set.  However, the section on preset mode says that when it is in Momentary the HXFX "returns to Stomp mode as soon as a Preset (or Snapshot) switch is pressed".  I hadn't seen that parenthetical  that I've highlighted.  And, therein lies my issue.  Why does the preset mode "override" the snapshot mode in this case.  I see now that it is behaving as documented, but it doesn't seem to me to be the right behavior.

 

BTW, I do appreciate, a lot, that Line6 provides this excellent manual.  I know it's difficult and expensive and few companies are still doing it.  Thanks, Line6!