helix lt with power stage SD 170 into an 2x12 celestion V30 harley benton

[sgrain]

I there guys .

let me tell you about my nightmares.

Now I'm 51 years old, when I was 20 I had a garage band and used a jcm900 mkII connected to 1960 A with a Yamaha rgx 312 guitar, for effects I used the zoom 505 with a boss EV volume pedal to do wha wha.than the band ended … and I stopped playing and sold everything, after a few years the fever returned and I started  by buying a telecaster and a fender reverb 25 amp, in the meantime I bought a strat and an epiphone les paul with which I have been playing more, for now One year I purchased a Helix LT, a Seymour Duncan PS 170 and a 2x12 Harley Benton with V30 Celestion . 

I'm about to give up, because I still don't get good sound from this set, what am I missing??? Does anyone have this set that can help me?Not even the factory presets sound god...

 

what is missing???

best regards from Portugal

[datacommando]

On 4/24/2024 at 11:40 PM, sgrain said:

I there guys .

let me tell you about my nightmares.

Now I'm 51 years old, when I was 20 I had a garage band and used a jcm900 mkII connected to 1960 A with a Yamaha rgx 312 guitar, for effects I used the zoom 505 with a boss EV volume pedal to do wha wha.than the band ended … and I stopped playing and sold everything, after a few years the fever returned and I started  by buying a telecaster and a fender reverb 25 amp, in the meantime I bought a strat and an epiphone les paul with which I have been playing more, for now One year I purchased a Helix LT, a Seymour Duncan PS 170 and a 2x12 Harley Benton with V30 Celestion . 

I'm about to give up, because I still don't get good sound from this set, what am I missing??? Does anyone have this set that can help me?Not even the factory presets sound god...

 

what is missing???

best regards from Portugal

Hi,

 

Now, I’m really confused? Are you the same guy who started this thread?

 

After a year, you now find that you cannot create a good tone using the Helix LT with the SD PS 170 and a 2x12 cab.

You don’t tell us in what scenario you using, or intend to use, this set up - studio, live, bedroom? As I stated way back in your previous thread about comparison with YouTube videos - “if you are not using the exact same guitar, strings, technique, play back system, monitors and listening environment what do you think it would sound like?”

 

Much like you, in here we are constantly confronted by young people who cannot even get close to the sound of guitars that are present in YouTube demos.

 

My guess is that what you are missing is the skill to figure out how to make it sound good. You need to tell us what it is that you want to achieve.

 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

 

Oi,

Agora estou realmente confuso? Você é o mesmo cara que iniciou esse tópico?

 

Veja o link acima.

Depois de um ano, você descobre que não consegue criar um bom tom usando o Helix LT com o SD PS 170 e uma cabine 2x12.

 

Você não nos conta em que cenário você usa, ou pretende usar, esse cenário - estúdio, live, quarto? Como afirmei no seu tópico anterior sobre comparação com vídeos do YouTube - “se você não estiver usando exatamente a mesma guitarra, cordas, técnica, sistema de reprodução, monitores e ambiente de audição, como você acha que soaria?”

 

Assim como você, aqui somos constantemente confrontados por jovens que não conseguem nem chegar perto do som das guitarras que estão presentes nas demos do YouTube.

 

Meu palpite é que o que está faltando é a habilidade de descobrir como fazer com que pareça bom. Você precisa nos dizer o que deseja alcançar.

 

Espero que isso ajude/faça sentido.

[codamedia]

On 4/24/2024 at 5:40 PM, sgrain said:

I purchased a Helix LT, a Seymour Duncan PS 170 and a 2x12 Harley Benton with V30 Celestion . 

I'm about to give up, because I still don't get good sound from this set, what am I missing??? Does anyone have this set that can help me? Not even the factory presets sound god...

 

You are using a fixed power amp and cabinet.... that means you need to turn off the cab modeling in the Helix. Cab/mic modeling into a real cab is NOT a good starting point. It may work when someone is really knowledgeable about what they are after, but the general rule is to turn it off! Relying on factory presets is futile at best, but the majority of those will have cabinets loaded. 

• When creating presets just add a "preamp" or "amp"... do not add "amps+cab"
• When editing others presets, replace the "amp+cab" with a "preamp" or "amp". (If the preset has separate amp & cab blocks, just remove the cab block)

NOTE: When doing presets without cabs, going direct or using headphones will not be a good idea.