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Helix Floor Setlist switching


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I want to switch setlists using a Morningstar MC6 Pro.

 

So I created a "On Enter Bank" command and set CC32 to the value indicating the bank (0-7) which led to nothing.

 

So I created another message "On Enter Bank" with a PC for the first preset I have in that bank which led to nothing, again.

 

How can I do this?

 

It would even be nicer being able to include CC32 in each MC6 preset but I am not aware how to do this.

 

Thank you very much.

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I'm still only using my MC8 for very basic functions but my understanding is the "on enter bank" applies to actions in the Morningstar unit only (I could be wrong though)

I have buttons setup to go to specific presets in different setlists on my Helix Rack. The buttons on the first bank on my MC8 will switch to another bank and snapshot 1 of the particualr Helix preset

MSG1 = CC32 0 (to switch to the first setlist)

MSG2 = PC 16 (to switch to preset 05A in that setlist)
MSG3 = CC69 0 (to activate snapshot 1)
MSG4 = Bank jump X (to make the MC8 switch to another bank that has actions setup for the preset I've initiated)

Message 1-3 has to be sent to send to the Helix's MIDI channel, message 4 is an internal function to the controller. I've always found that whatever I'm trying to get my controller to do I have to have the messages 1-3 in that order (and in the correct order within the 16 messages sent by the button press)

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My general approach to using my Morningstar MC8 for controlling presets, snapshots and stomp is to reserve two of the top buttons (G and H) for scrolling through different presets by sending the specific PC and CC for the preset that's displayed when you display it on your Helix at the lower left side of the screen.  From the Morningstar perspective that's two MIDI transactions (PC + CC).  Typically I just use the CC msgs to simulate the pressing of a footswitch which are CC 40-58 (FS 1-11).  That works for snapshots or footswitches or you can use the specific snapshot CC# of 69 with a value of 0 - 7.

 

There are a couple of tricks you can use with the Morningstar such as defining the button as a toggle for footswitches defined as only on while holding them.  I sometimes send two footswitch commands on one MC8 button to toggle between two different effects (one on, one off simultaneously).  There's enough control in the MC controllers that I really don't press any foot controls on my Helix other than to tune or to use the volume pedal.

 

In my case I automate all of my controls to the Helix synchronized with the playback of my backing tracks in Ableton which I control via the rest of the buttons on my MC8.  I actually select the Ableton track using the G and H top buttons and that coordinates the track with the appropriate Helix preset.  I then press the Start button (Morningstar A) which starts the tracks playing and a MIDI out track notifies the MC8 to what button to trigger at the appropriate time to make changes to the Helix.  I can still execute those changes manually on the MC8, but I usually just leave it up to the MIDI control track in Ableton.

 

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