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USB 7 / 8 does not feed any signal to my DAW


Dufrense
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Greetings!

 

I have an issue with my Helix Stadium XL. I use it to record into Fender Studio Pro 8 (also tried this in Bandlab). I create a audiotrack in Studio Pro 8 and set it up to use USB 7 as input, but there is no signal at all. Using USB 1/2 works just fine, but switching to 7 or 8 there is absolutely no input to the track. On the Helix I have checked the settings and USB 7 is setup for re-amping for instrument 1 (also checked my patch and instrument 1 is the input to the patch) and USB 8 is setup for mic. This should work, but there is absolutly no signal. Patch output is Matrix 1/4, XLR and Phones. As already mentioned I tried this in Bandlab as well with no luck.

 

I used this feature frequently on my old Helix Floor with zero issues.

 

Any tips on this issue? I Googled it, but it does not seem to be a widespread issue.

 

Any help most appriciated!

 

Best Regards

 

/Dufrense

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This is a known bug that I encountered using Sonar (post Bandlab - free version) and reported. It also affects USB 3/4 and 5/6. It will be fixed in a future update.
 

There is a workaround. As long as USB 1/2 is armed for recording on one track all other USB channels are available for selection on other tracks.

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I have the same issue but in Ableton Live, and the workaround doesn't work for me - I already had a track armed for 1/2, as I wanted to capture both the DI and the effects on separate tracks as described in the manual. The effected track from 1/2 records fine, but there is nothing on the DI track from 7.

 

I have checked the Global Settings>Ins/Outs has 'Re-amp Src Out USB 7' set to Inst 1, and my guitar is plugged into Instrument 1. Ableton's Audio settings are using the ASIO config, and 7&8 are set up for Mono inputs. Input Channel is set to 7 for the DI track.

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OK, thanks for getting back to me. I have a sort of workaround whereby I add an extra (empty) path to my Stadium Preset, with the Input Block set to Instrument 1 and the Output Block set to USB 1/2 (with Global Ins/Outs for USB 1/2 changed to Direct Out). This lets me record a DI track from the empty path, while monitoring with the effects on the other path (Output still set to Matrix). I then change the USB 1/2 settings back, and re-amp immediately to get an initial version of a 'wet' track.

 

This does seem a bit of a 'miss' though. There is a whole section of the manual dedicated to using USB7 or 8 for direct out in parallel with a stereo effected output on 1/2. It surprises me that there isn't more reference to this issue when I search for it, which makes me wonder if it only happens with specific use cases.

 

Do you have any feedback from Line 6 for your bug report on either the scope of the issue (does it really affect everyone, or just particular DAWs etc), or the timescales of a fix?

 

Thanks again,

 

H

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I raised my own ticket with Line 6 to confirm it affects Ableton, and their response confirms the workaround provided by Silverhead: This is a bug with the additional USB audio busses (all after 1/2) -The workaround is to have a track or tracks with the "previous" USB busses armed in addition to the other USB outputs. For example : -USB 3-4 and 5-6 will not record without USB 1-2 armed, USB 7-8 needs to have all previous USB tracks armed in order to record in the DAW -this will be fixed in a future update -but we cannot provide any timescale for firmware updates and which fixes will be included in the next update Best regards Line 6 /Ampeg Support Europe

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