Geamala Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 I'm not sure if anyone else has noticed this but when i put the magnetic neck pickup only on I get absolutely no 5th fret harmonics. I guesse this has some thing to do with the pickup placement and some sort of cancellation. Is this normal for strats? It is very frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toneman2121 Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 yes, i believe it is difficult to pluck harmonics at the 5th fret using the neck only pick up. i experience the same thing with my strat style g&l legacy. i guess that's the way it is. if i switch pick ups there's no problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_Watt Posted July 29, 2014 Share Posted July 29, 2014 There is probably a vibration Node where the neck pickup is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geamala Posted July 30, 2014 Author Share Posted July 30, 2014 That is what I thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 No guitar to hand, but if the distance from nut to 5th fret is close to the distance from bridge to neck pickup then there will be little or no string vibration for the neck pickup to react to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmayfield Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 This is just the physical magnetic pickups right? I'm assuming the modeled pickups still work for that harmonic since the strings are actually being sensed by the piezos in the bridge. Or is that somehow mathematically possible to include that in the modeling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted July 31, 2014 Share Posted July 31, 2014 Yes the models will always work for the harmonic - I actually tried it last night and I got sound from the harmonic with mags, but at a very low level but as I was using a very high gain patch at the time I could hear it fine. When I switched from mags to model the level of the harmonic jumped right up in level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clay-man Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Haha, the Variax side can do something the magnetics can't do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_Watt Posted August 2, 2014 Share Posted August 2, 2014 Piezo pickups are completely different than mags. They pick up the vibration at the very end of the strings. It's up to the modeling to simulate what the strings are doing where the mags would be. Different harmonics have nodes in different places along the strings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewolf48 Posted August 4, 2014 Share Posted August 4, 2014 I guess we should really be complaining to Line 6 about the lack of realism of the Variax models because the don't account for nodes coinciding with pickup position when playing harmonics. It should just be a case of determining from the pickup position what frequencies for that string will have a node at that distance from the bridge and then doing a cut around those frequencies. Gets a bit trickier when alternate tunings are included though, but that just shifts the node frequencies proportional to the tuning. What it can't model is when you have physically changed the tuning from standard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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