Dec 16, 2012 7:34 PM
Pod HD High Gain Tone Guide
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I have made a rather detailed web guide to dialing in high gain tones on the Pod HD. I know it's a bit long, but it consists of numerous independent sections - you can probaby skip most of them) to getting the most out of your Pod HD, in regards to achieving high gain tones. I'm not sure if I want to expand on it any further or not, but I figure it's close enough to being done to go ahead and post. Here is the introduction:
"The purpose of this guide is to basically provide the details Line 6 failed to provide, mostly geared towards getting high gain tones with the Pod HD 500. It also applies to the Pod HD 300, 400, Desktop, and Pro; however, there may be a few things here and there impossible to do on the 300/400, or that don’t make sense on the Desktop.
It may seem like I’m treading a lot of ground that the manual covered, but while I’m covering the same topics, I’m providing details on these topics that were not clearly spelled out, which I’ve learned through personal experience or from other members on this forum.
I primarily focus on high gain tones, but I also like some nice clean, classic rock, and blues tones. Some of the artists I've sought to emulate include SRV, EVH, Satch, Vai, Petrucci, KSE, Periphery, Meshuggah, Metallica, Randy Rhodes, AC/DC, and Opeth. If you can dial in all those sounds, you should have no problem dialing in almost any rock tone you want. I use all of the traditional rock and high gain amps, with the exception of of the JTM-45."
It also includes sections on guitar setup/hardware, hooking up the Pod in various configurations, defeating clipping/harshness, and various other tips/troubleshooting.
Hopefully this helps some of you out. If you see any errors or disagreeable content please let me know.
I have made a webpage with sample clips and patches attempting to somewhat emualate some metal/shred artists. Some are a lot closer to the actual artist's tone than others. I really just wanted to use all the amps and demo some of my tone-building techniques referenced in the guide. I am currently in the process of finalizing my latest patches and recording clips for them. I try to keep the latest versions available for download as I go along. They should be finalized by the end of April 2012.
http://foobazaar.com/podhd/toneDemo/
Dec. 2012 Update: I have "finalized" (9_9) my patches, but have little time to record a new patch demo. See the link below for my latest patches.
This is brilliant - a very interesting and helpful read, Thanks for taking the time to share your insight and experience.
Regards
I read it.
Dude - you're a Good Egg!!! ![]()
Damn! That is really great, meambobbo. Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I haven't had a chance to read it entirely, yet, as I am at work.
I guess I will be the first...in 'Hooking It Up' I don't believe you mention that you can run the HD straight into a power amp for 'live' use. In my case a stereo Mesa 50/50...![]()
Good Work!!!!!
I just wanted to express my appreciation for this guide. I downloaded it this morning (I converted it to PDF though, don't have MS Office). It comes off as an excellent complement to the instruction manual. Most of my experience on guitar is with an acoustic, so I admit to feeling completely overwhelmed with the HD500.
This guide looks like just the thing I needed. Not to explain exactly how to get the perfect tone in 10 easy steps, but to give me some context, point me in the right direction and let me do the rest. Thanks!
Nice one ![]()
Good stuff. I think you are going to be Mr Popular for putting this together.
I like the way it's presented and the way it's been put together. It is the kind of thing that newcomers to guitar and those of us that have been playing quite a while can dip in and out of, and there's some good clues in it which should help users find their own sound.
Well done from me - and thanks from me for putting in the considerable amount of time and effort that you must have in putting this together. ![]()
Best regards
Nick
awesome....thanks!!! ![]()
Great ! Thanks. Have you uploaded some of your tones ?
Here is the PDF version of your guide: http://fileape.com/dl/6ZKo1kqph0MmVO0G (click Regular and wait 15 sec)
That's just great! There's a lot of stuff in there that Ihadn't really thought about and hadn't really considered. You can bet I'm going to be considering the gain staging of the signal chain as well as trying some of your eq hints. Very cool.
Thanks!
An excellent and very useful piece of work!
Many thanks for the endless hours this must have taken you. Much appreciated.
Thank you very much. I just read the whole thing. Very helpful and makes me want to go play so I can try many of things you suggested. Excellent insightful and useful information there.
Well done sir. I just downloaded it now and can't wait to deep dive into it tomorrow. From skimming the high gain amps I love the key advice to getting great djent tones. Thanks!
hey Texxxxx - actually that's section III.B.iii (it's how I run my amp):
"Simple setup for amp with effects loop: the simplest setting is nearly the same as above, but you run into the effects loop return (power amp in) on the amp. Use "Combo Power Amp" or "Stack Power Amp" output mode (or "Studio/Direct" and "no cab"), and set the line/amp switch to line.
Here you bypass your amp's pre-amp completely, and you will use the Pod's amp modeling instead. The downside is that you do not have the option to use your amp's pre-amp. If you want that option, you have to use the 4 cable method, described below.
Guitar > [external effects >] Pod guitar in
[Pod effects loop out > external effects > Pod effects loop return]
Pod unbalanced out > [external effects >] Amp effects loop return (power amp in)
This is how I run the Pod to my Spider Valve combo."
I'm very pleased so many people are enjoying this guide. Thanks Lef38 for the .pdf conversion - I added it to my site and edited the thread to include the link.
Be sure to let me know if you have any questions - I hope to add some sound samples soon to demonstrate exactly what I mean, as well as patch files.
Cheers for all the hard work Meambobbo...........excellent document.
Had a little "play" with a few of your ideas last night........particularly liked the idea of using the Tube Screamer in front of the P75 amp model.Got some really nice tight gain tones using that.......also got good results using the Tube Driver,Classic Distion and Overdrive models with this amp also.
As an aside, I tried the same technique into the JTM 45 model and found I got the best results using the Classic Distortion and Overdrive models.(not going for "metal" tones with this model just tighter/fuller crunch/drive tones as I find this amp model to be to "bassy")
Am I right to assume that raising the gain slightly on each of the OD/DS sims will add some compression to the tone (in the same way as it does for the Screamer) and if I raise the gain on the OD/DS sim ( to 10, for example) do I also need to lower the output volume of the OD/DS........or does this negate the added compression??
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