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meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
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Feb 9, 2012 2:29 PM

Dual Cab Tones - lil help...?

Lately on most of my patches I use "dual cabs" - I set up a dual amp patch, and use the same amp for both channels with identical settings, but use different cab/mic combinations for each channel.  I will adjust the amp/channel volume knob to balance the volume of each channel so neither dominates the other, and you find the sweet spot where they complement each other.  I also pan both channels to dead center in the mixer, so I get one thick mono tone.

 

Here's a list of the combinations that have worked well for me:

  • Treadplate 4x12/SM57 on axis + XXL V30 4x12/SM57 on axis
  • Treadplate 4x12/SM57 on axis + XXL V30 4x12/409 Dynamic
  • Treadplate 4x12/SM57 on axis + Treadplate 4x12/4038 Ribbon
  • Greenbacks4x12/SM57 on axis + Greenbacks 4x12/4038 Ribbon

 

It takes a while to experiment and find new combos that work well.  I was hoping some community members here might feel a bit adventurous and help find combinations that work well together.  Post whatever you find!

 

Thanks.

Tags: pro, dual_tone, dual_amp, hd500, pod_hd, podhd, hd_500, desktop, dual_cabs
  • daveschutt Just Startin'
    daveschutt
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    Feb 9, 2012 6:06 PM (in response to meambobbo)
    Re: Dual Cab Tones - lil help...?

    I often use a Fender Twin with the Park 75.  I'm mainly after the big Plexi Marshall sound but then I dial in the clean Fender sound until it gives my tone a bit more clarity.  Usually about a 60% Park 40% Fender gets me there.  Though I get frustrated too much by the DSP Limit that I have really thrown in the towel on developing good Dual Patches.  It's a real shame because what you can do with the HD vs the X3 is some respects is so much more but the DSP Limit really hurts.  Ultimately if I could wave a magic wand, I would have my Dual Amp patch set so I could assign F1~4 for Effects for Amp 1, F4~8 for Amp 2, Volume/Wah, plug an extra expression pedal and that would control the mixer so I could or Amp Master Volumes so I could blend the two amps on the fly.

     

    Now that I typed all this I looked back at your post and see I'm a little off topic, but hey I typed all this, and got to vent a little! So we'll leave it at that.

    • meambobbo Iknowathingortwo
      meambobbo
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      Feb 9, 2012 8:07 PM (in response to daveschutt)
      Re: Dual Cab Tones - lil help...?

      it's all good!  topics are meant to be broken!

       

      Anyhoo, here's a little advice with your dsp issue: Instead of using the Fender on one channel, select no amp instead.  Then put a compressor and EQ in that channel.  You lose 2 effect blocks, but you'll use  less DSP, so you should be able to use all 6 remaining blocks, instead of capping out at 4 or 5 otherwise.

      • smash979 Just Startin'
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        Feb 9, 2012 8:15 PM (in response to meambobbo)
        Re: Dual Cab Tones - lil help...?

        Piggybacking a bit off Dave's post, I primarily use the dual tread amps, and set one at about 60% gain and the other at 30% in order to get a nice blend of crunch and moderate gain.  I think varying the eq's on them fills in the frequencies nicely.

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