jdag

Well I don't know what happened to give me the differing behaviors...whether it was my error or not! But my 6 button looper blocks are now working as they always have. I had updated from 2.7 to 2.71, which is what I attributed the issue to. Very mysterious!

I am (embarrassingly) going to say this was user error. I was away for the past week, but just used my Helix and the looper is working as it had in the past. I think maybe I had too much wine on Christmas when trying it last!

I am away, so not in front of my Helix, so cannot be 100% sure this is accurate. But yes, the loop still plays when I navigate over to stomp more and/or change to a different preset. However, when I go back to the 6 button looper, the record button is not "ready" for an additional overdub. And if you click it, it starts a brand new recording, erasing your old one. The only thing I've found to do is to click the play/stop button, then do an overdub, but it is not as smooth a transition. You used to be able to just click the overdub again without "risking" your existing loop.

In all seriousness...what would be the benefit of the new functionality? As I mentioned before, it seemingly negates the advantage of having separate stop and overdub buttons.

UUGH! So was this an "upgrade" from 2.7 to 2.71? I assume that's the case as I just updated to 2.71. Doesn't this negate the main benefit of the 6 button looper (as compared to the 1 button model)? Let's hope it is a mistake/oversight.

I updated to 2.71 the other day, and I THINK that the 6 button looper buttons have been modified. They don't react as in the past (unless I've been sipping too much egg nog these past few days). Now, after recording a loop then going over to stomp mode, when you return to the looper the overdub button is no longer ready to accept an overdub. If you step on it, it starts recording a new loop and you lose your old one. In the past I would be able to record a loop, change presets, use stomps to change delays/reverbs/overdrive/etc, and then go back to the looper to add a new layer. What I am finding now is that I have to hit the stop/play button 1st. Anyone else seeing this???

You are hitting on 1 of the primary reasons that many people prefer loopers with at least 2 switches, where the 2nd switch is a dedicated stop. The HX Stomp only offers the 1 switch looper option. The Helix, LT, and HX Effects offer both 1 switch and 6 switch loopers. The 6 switch does in fact have a dedicated stop switch and is much easier to use.

Well...there goes $100 ;-) Bought it.

I am still seeing the same price at SW, MF, and GC. ZZ has a higher price for some reason. Are you sure you aren't looking at the GC/MF sites where they show the Helix LT and Gig Bag combo?

Only if that put me at risk of other people hearing my playing! Thanks for the help guys!

Perfect...thanks! I thought that might be the case, but it did not fit easily over that jack. I was just able to wiggle it on now. Is there also supposed to be a cap over the Digital Out port?

I rec'd a Helix LT yesterday and there was a small black rubber "cap" that was in the box (technically in the large plastic bag that the LT was in). I cannot figure out where that cap came from. It is about the size of 4 dimes stacked together. Any ideas what this is? Thanks, John

Yup...just saw that over in that other discussion forum. The HX, to my knowledge, does not act as an interface so I highly doubt that would work. It is actually another reason I am considering just upping the spend and going with the LT.

Here's an update for anyone interested...I have had mixed results using the HX Effects into the THR10... 1) Into the THR's instrument in, the only really usable option is the clean amp. Using any of the other THR amps with effects in front leads to less-than-satisfying tones. 2) The fact that there's no effects loop also limits the usefulness of a looper (not just the HX Effects looper, but any looper). However, the advantage of the looper in the HX Effects over using a stand-alone looper in front of the THR and then using the THR built-in effects is that you can have the looper after all of the HX Effect options, thus keeping your looper as recorded. 3) When using the THR instrument in you loose the stereo capabilities of the HX Effects. This is a real bummer because those stereo effects are huge fun to experiment with. 4) All of the above leads to using the Aux input instead. You then get stereo output, and essentially are using the THR as nothing more than monitor speakers (or via the THR headphone output). It sounds really good. 5) But, and this is a big but, you are then not using any amps so have to resort to using IRs (which I am just beginning to learn to use). For acoustic this is fine, but for electric it is a limitation (I think, I don't know what I don't know). As a result, I am wondering if the HX Effects is the right piece of equipment for me. I love the form factor, and it is easy to use. It is built incredibly well, really top notch. But I may return it for the Helix LT to give more flexibility in using amps and cabs as opposed to just IRs.

Thanks...exactly my thought.

Has anyone had experience using an HX Effects unit in front of a Yamaha THR10 amp? How's your experience been? Thanks, John

Excellent ideas!

Decisions decisions! HX - smaller, everything he'd need, less costly LT - amps in the event they are ever needed (whether by him or someone else), graphical display, XLR

Thanks, guys...looks like either would work well. Since I have the LT, it might be more to his liking. But maybe I will just simply let him pick.

My nephew visited last night, and it was the 1st time he's seen my new Helix LT. Needless to say, he was blown away and wants one of his own. He loved the delay and reverb capabilities. He has a special event coming up, and my wife and I want to really treat him. So, she and I spoke about a Helix as a gift last evening. It is more than we initially planned to spend on the gift, but it is something we'd like to do. He is a 100% an acoustic player. Currently he plays at home through a Yamaha THR5a as well as headphones. The thought would be that he'd be able to use the Helix out to the THR5a for home use. When gigging he currently uses an inexpensive pedal (not sure make/model) to the house PA. So, would the Helix LT or the HX Effects be the better option. Realizing of course the cost savings, I am hoping the HX Effects is a good solution. Thanks, John

Thanks...will try that too

Thanks for the input. I was 99.9% sure that it was a learning process...like everything else with guitar, music, Helix, etc......

Then clearly I am a lost cause! ;)

I thought that might be the "solution"...practice! ;-)

I am brand new to using a looper, and so far I love it. And wondering why I didn't have one long ago! However, there's 1 annoyance, and it is very very likely user error. Each time my recording goes back to the beginning of the loop, I clearly hear the transition point. It is sort of an "abrupt transition" back to the beginning. It is especially noticeable in shorter loops. Are there some best practices (other than keep learning to use loopers better) that could help me avoid the noticeable repeating point?