Hey all, this is my first post here,my name is Doug Patterson and I picked up an HX Effects to be my Swiss army super pedal. My apologies if I have come to the wrong forum. I don't really want to drop my tubes yet, so that is my reason for not going Helix. I have a Friedman Smallbox Combo that sounds quite honestly fantastic, but as good as it is, my old Bogner Alchemist combo that was going to go bye bye suddenly finds itself of some use as when set in the cleaner channel boosted and such sounding kinda like a cranked old bassman or something`compliments the Friedman's Marshall type crunch very nicely. They share a huge Blackstar old school flat front oversized stereo 4x12 cab loaded with Vintage 30's. The blend is very nice. I liked the idea of running them stereo, a simple plan. But then I discovered just how awesome wet dry is. and how ultimately wet dry wet is. that is probably easily achievable with 7 cable method. As I mentioned, the dry combos I would like stereo as while originally there would be only drives out front, but Univibes and phase shifters I like going into the driven amps. I would like stereo wet, but I may need to switch between amps, plus I have a small Mackie mixer on my board (???!!!), so I was thinking running out of both amp effects loop sends out to the board to be combined into a mono feed for the few keeper mono wet pedals I can't ditch quite yet hopefully in the stereo effects loop of the board into the HX Effects to be stereoized by some nice HX stereo mod,verb,or whatever I gotta have, loop back into board, main board outs with a mostly wet signal out to either a surplus Crown power amp I have or a Fender Blues Junior and an ancient greenback loaded Ampeg Rocket from the very early 60's.what can I say? I'm old,grumpy,set in old ways. I am not trying to brag about how much gear I have, or how great some of it is or isn't, hell, except for the Friedman that came to me as a treat bought with a lucky 50/50 ticket at a hockey game, everything else is just stuff laying around. My dad bought me that Ampeg in the early 70's when I was 7.It was an old beat looking $75 used piece of bygone days gear when I got it. Anyways, I am a Line 6 special needs case with big ideas but not the programming savvy to quite figure out. The common starting point recommended around here is download a 4CM patch and go from there, but I need a 7CM patch with a few special requirements for mostly the outputs that I am not quite able to figure out routing wise. My ultimate dream request would be for some kind soul to perhaps upload a 7CM patch with assigned outputs for the 2 stereo loops I hope to have. I could examine the signal flow and routing etc. That, I would be most grateful for. Oh, and ground loops and stuff? Currently I have a stereo ART transformer type direct box with ground lifts, a tech who knows grounding cold, and a local Long & McQuade in my neighborhood. Thank you to those who took the time to read to the bottom of this long post.