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We have spoken before about ATG. I am the also Venezuelan fella who chated with you over Facebook once. Yeah, I will make that test prior doing any permanent modification to the transmitter. I will also incorporate the Quiccosound mi.1 for wireless MIDI.

mmm I wonder what might be happening there. You know, in the end the hot wire is pretty close to the transmitter. Well, it is part if its assembly. The TIP of the embedded jack. I will give it a try anyway and see. Still not sure what of the system I will go for. Almost completely leaned towards the G10. BTW. this is to be installed on my ATG guitar.

I am not sure about this. Are you quite sure? Although the wireless signal could couple to the hot signal, 2.4Ghz frequencies are not audible for the human, amps or speakers. So it would not have real impact. Unless I am missing something?

Thank you. I was just wondering if the jack were the transmitter hooks for charging could be used as input signal. I am pretty sure it cant but better ask. Perhaps there is a workaround or something possible.

I am researching before buying my wireless system. I wonder if the Dock station allows plugging a mono (or stereo?) cable as Aux-in effectively bypassing the wireless stage.????? If not possible today, it would be a nice feature for a new revision, wouldn't it? Even adding tuner output like the G50.

Yeah, I believe charging and channel selection could be accomplished by using a short stereo cable and a TRS jack on the guitar. Virtually routing through the standard jack the power from the dock receiver. The only hack I see it would require is in the ON/OFF mechanism. I am still considering the G30 instead. Both G10 and G30 have their Pros and Cons. I just wish the G10 receiver had a selector of multiple transmitters. Does somebody have pictures of the guts of both transmitters?

Well, This is mainly for use at home so no need for long ranges. Waves go through wood. The main problem would be if your electronics cavity is shielded (mine is not) and the Faraday cage it forms. In such cases the antenna can always be installed in such way that it is exposed to the outside world similar to the G50 transmitter that has a metal case. I know it has been done before, I am just curious for others peoples solutions.

Has anyone tried fitting a a wireless transmitter inside their instrument? I am thinking on disassembling a Line 6 relay G10 or G30, taking the circuit off and fitting inside my guitar on the existing control cavity (no routing). Space is a constrain so the transmitter with smallest footprint would be great. Battery type and voltage also important to make it convenient for recharging. What about other brands? It seems the JOYO JW0-1 is a very neat inexpensive option with minimal footprint. Not sure about the quality. If I were to use the G10, charging and channel selection I believe could be accomplished by using a short stereo cable and a TRS jack on the guitar. What I do not like about the G10 is the ON/OFF mechanism (it would need a hack) and that it can only be paired to only one transmitter at a time and changing guitars/transmitters would mean reconnecting to the dock to get them paired. On the other hand the G30 does have an easy ON/OFF switch and supports multiple transmitters in different channels but does not uses a nice rechargeable battery and size of internal component is unknown. I am being curious if someone has tried something similar with the G10 or any other wireless system.

Something similar to the Fishman universal battery pack but with a L6 relay circuit would be excellent indeed. Something that could be easily installed on any guitar with decent cavity and a rechargeable battery ala G10. The plate should allow controlling the channel and ON/Off. If I do not go with the G30 in my project, I might go with the G10. Channel selection and charging could be done using a TRS jack in the guitar that connects to the dock.

I just stumbled on this post. I was looking to use the G10 for the same purpose as you but it would seem the G30 is more practical in this case. Would you mind posting a picture of the inside your cavity? I am looking to see how small the unit can get by removing the case. Thank you

I did when using the POD of course. However, the point here is that the on-board processor of the Amplifii gets only reproduced on the main speaker instead of the 5 way speaker system. Making the whole sound not FRFR (Full range, Flat response) but perhaps GRFR (Guitar range, Flat response).

I do not believe this will happen at all in the short term. As far as I understand the Variax does not even detect pitch, it only assumes you are in the standard tuning for applying alternate tuning. Without detecting pitch, note to midi notes would be impossible.

Well, that was of course the fist thing I tried. It seems the issues has gone after doing a factory reset to the Amp. So far so good.

Has anyone had an issue with their amplifi where when it gets connected to a computer (Windows 10), it continuously appears and disappears every second from the devices connected not allowing to actually use it for anything? This has happened on 2 different Computers with latest drivers and firmware. Strangely enough, only the first time I connected it to both PC's it worked uninterrupted. I am feeling my amp is damaged.

I have just bought an Amplifi 75 (latest firmware) with the intention of replacing my POD X3 and consolidate it with nice features like the Bluetooth streaming. Also looking to use it as an FRFR system for possibly new moddelers (Kemper or Atomic amplifire) when I had the money. I have dialed in the same patches I had in my X3 into the Amplifi but surprise surprise, they sound totally different even though they are based on the same tech. Interestigly enough, when using Headphones they sound very closed but when using the Speaker, they are totally different (Lack of frequencies). When I connet the POD via the headphone out into the aux in, the audio gets reproduced by all the speakers (True FR) and sounds like it is supposed. However, when using the guitar Jack on the Amplifi, either by using the newly dialed in patch directly from the guitar or using the POD through its Guitar ouput into a full blank patch; it is clear not all the speakers are being used and a lot of intended frequencies are lost = bad tone. The big question here is: If any modeller system (including the Amplifi) needs to be reproduced through an FRFR system to take advantage of the amp and cab sims, why the heck Line6 chose not to use all the speakers when using the internal modelling for accurate reproduction? Does anyone else experience the same or is it possible my amp is defective? Just to note: the Bluetooth streaming sounds great using all the speakers as well andI am finding myself still using the POD and the amplifi only for mixing all together. Not exactly "the amp reinvented".

cruisinon2 - I am new using this forum so I am not sure if when NOT quoting, you get or not notifications. So, in case you did not, see me response below to your post. If you did, please ignore this.

I agree I should have word it better and I apologies to the Line 6 community for may lack of Forum etiquette. In regards comparing the technologies, one can argue and start a healthy discussing about the topic. From my point of view, all the systems I mentioned do share the same principles: They all rely on good channel (string) separation coming from a Hexaphonic input, they all use Digital Signal Processing of each channel independently, they all apply algorithms to achieve modeling or alternate tunings (here are indeed differences of the algorithms used), they all combine the channel output, and most importantly they all end up sounding (or trying) like a guitar (leaving aside the MIDI-like capabilities of Roland products). Since they are all competing products with very similar offerings, comparing them is the natural thing to do. Specifically in my case, comparing the effects of palm muting with very high gain. In any case, if you are willing to help me regardless the way I initially posted my question. Let me ask you, does your Variax have ever experienced distortion on the output when cross-talk occurs (specifically palm muting w high gain) or not? Thank you

Maybe I was not clear enough on my expectations here. I just wanted to know if the Variaxes were also affected by my same issue. As I do not own a Variax, The only thing I could do is to ask other users, no? I really never asked for users here to tell me what is my problem exactly but helping me know if this also happened to them. Variax, ATG, Roland VG. All those technologies are based in the same physical principles so they share characteristics. How would you know you would like more one technology over the other if not taking the risk buying and also asking users of the other technologies? Although I read everywhere about limitations of using piezos, I never expected the specific artifacts I am getting. Now that I am getting my answers here (Thank you psarkissian), I am considering on getting also a Variax now that I know it is not affected by my specific issue.

Well none of that is the case as I have exhaustively discarded all possibilities (even using a completely set of piezo pickups). Everything points me to the pitch shifting algorithm (Auto-correlation of data) used by Antares that seems to be susceptible to polyphonic sounds. @psarkissian - Would you know what type of pitch shifting algorithm the Variaxes employ? (phase vocoders, fourier transform, auto-correlation). Perhaps this is not something everyone would know but you as part of Line 6 may dig out. If Variaxes do not experience this effect, I will have to open a support ticket with Antares as this seems to be a very bad effect. Although, they also offer magnetic hexaphonic pickups a posibly they are not affected by cross-talk caused by the palm touching adjacent strings.

Hi Cruisinon I had read all the posts where you discuss this problem and after my tests, what you say is exactly what is happening. Cross talk is being transferred through my palm. However, the symptoms here do not match exactly to what you have described. I do not really hear 2 notes but uncontrolled distortion. I encourage you to listen to the clip when you have a chance a try to replicate. You may not know but the Antares pitch shifting algorithm is "more clever" as it detects the pitch at all times and apply intonation corrections. Line 6 simply applies a constant correction factor to achieve alt tunings. I am telling you this because my issue also happens in non-drop tunings and I do not really hear 2 notes at the time but distortion. I have read a lot about how pitch-shifting works (all the maths and physics) and I believe the issue is with the approach Antares does that may be very good for other applications and pitch correction, but in my specific case is more harmful. Quoting Antares admin guide "The most important consideration with pickups is potential distortion created by the algorithm changing pitch. What happens with hex pickups is that some sound from neighboring strings gets into each string's data. The cross-­â€channel sounds have different periods than the primary sound of the channel, and dropping or repeating cycles to change pitch creates discontinuities in the cross-­â€channel sounds. This results in distortion." So, I believe I can live with the "2 notes" sounding at the time but the distortion I hear is so unworkable for me. I just want to know if my issue (distortion) is present on other similar technologies. Again, please listen to the audio when you can. Thank you

RESOLVED It turns out that while not reassembly completely the chassis (every single screw), this issue is present. As soon as I reassembled everything, the issue was gone. I guess it needed the ground mass to offload the unwanted signals to ground..

Hi All, I am very aware from so many sources that piezo pickups are problematic in high gain scenarios and when palm muting. However, I am not sure if the issue I am experiencing is one of those well known piezo problems or a general problem with the auto-tune/alt tuning features. I have adapted my palm muting technique but what I am experiencing is something I do not have clue how to avoid. Would someone be able to help me by listening to my audio clip and telling me if that is expected? Basically on the audio clip I have very high gain patch (noise gate off so everything can be heard). Initially I am palm muting on Standard E, notice that nothing sounds awfully wrong (well there may something there but not very noticeable). But as soon as I tune down to Drop C in this case (or any other tuning), the decay section of the palm mute strum experiences a very noticeable nasty kind of distortion/static/scratch. Please bear in mind I am not directly touching the piezos but only the strings very close to the saddles. On the final section of the clip I am not even palm muting but simply touching the strings with my finger. Ohh, I almost forgot if I gently hit the guitar or back of the neck, the distortion also happens. Does anything of this happens to you? you will have to crack your metal amps/patches up Audio clip: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4kdb2u8zms52tu9/distorted_static_noise.wav?dl=0 Ohh just so you know, this is not on a Variax but an Antares Auto-tune for guitar system :) . Nonetheless, the same principles apply. If this does not happen on the Variaxes, I woill know it is not a physical limitation of the piezos but something on how the signal is processed by Antares.

Ya lo probe! Ve a las configuracione de Sonido de tu PC, en la seccion de Playback configura por defecto tu PC (no el POD), el la seccion de Recording selecciona el POD y luego ve a propiedades - Listen/escuchar - selecciona "escuchar este dispositivo/listen to this device". Como te dije, introduce un retardo pero no tan grave.

Hola David, Lo que tu quieres hacer no es optimo. Cuando utilizas el POD como interfaz de audio ella tambien se comporta como una tarjeta de sonido para tu PC. Lo que tu intentas hacer es trasnmitir audio desde una tarjeta de sonido a otra (la que trae tu PC). Esto no es deaseado ya que agregaria mucho retardo a la senal. Sin embargo, creo que puedes configurar tu PC en las configuraciones de audio para que tome audio de entrada del POD pero la salida por tu PC. Tambien puedes grabar con el POD y luego descoectarlo y escuchar por tu PC.

Hi folks, I hope you will be able to help me and appreciate if you take the time to read my long post.. Well the story here is that on my POD X3 Live every time I use any of the encoders/knobs/exp pedal except the Master Vol; the digital signal that is sent to I guess the main microprocessor gets coupled to the audio signal and thus heard through the outputs. On my troubleshooting, the signal does not seem to get coupled on the processed audio chain as it cannot be heard on the effect loops (pre/post), headphones, USB. I guess it happens when it is in the analog world in the Digital/analog converter (Codec1) that leads to the "Live Out" Outputs. A little background about how it started: It happens that I moved over to Europe and while I was pretty aware of the Voltage difference I kind of assume the Line 6 power adapter also supported 220v like any decent power adapter (shame on Line 6). Well it happened that I burnt out the POD and the unit did not work for around 1 year. I simply refused to let the unit die so after a lot of researching, finding the official service manual and some troubleshooting (reconnecting the unit and tracing the smoke generated); I managed to identify that the diodes of the Bridge rectifier AC/DC converter were damaged along the only very big capacitor inside. So, I replaced those component and guess what? Voila, unit back to live!! Only problem? the coupling described above. So yes, I am pretty sure something else got damaged. I am not an electronics savvy, reason I seek for help. I reckon it is very hard to help by not diagnosing the actual unit. But I wonder if someone else experienced something similar or is able to identify possible vulnerable pieces by looking at the POD schematics and my feedback. https://bmamps.com/Schematics/Line_6/Line_6_POD_X3_Live_Service_Manual.pdf Btw. I do have a multi-meter :) Cheers Christian