Jasipi Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I've never recorded with a device like a POD before so i'm not sure how to go about it. I don't want to use the POD as an interface though, i want to use my Scarlett 2i4. Do i plug the L+R 1/4" outs into the 2i4? I've been reading something about the quality being reduced due to signal conversions or something so i don't know what the deal is there. I heard some other stuff about the S/PDIF being the way to go but i've never used that before. I was hoping to just use the 1/4" outs on the POD into the 2i4, then engage the 2i4's 'Direct Monitor" feature to just hear the POD straight out of my studio monitors with no latency as i record instead of going through the computer. Can it work that way and would it be practical? If there is a way to get the dry signal for reamping as well that would be handy, but i can live without it. I'm not super tech savvy so thanks for any help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjnette Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Does the Scarlet take s/pdif digital inputs? If so it will save an aditional conversion step. Just saw a front and back pic so no s/pdif. Use the analogue outs and turn the preamp on the 212 gain down or XLR out and turn the 212 pre amp gain up. or save a conversion and go via the HDs usb. The scarlet 212 is an entry level usb interface and wont be any better than the HD usb. It will be good for vocals or other mic'd overdubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amsdenj Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 Why don't you want to use the POD as you're audio input device? Its not an audio quality issue because you're going through the POD anyway, and putting it through another audio interface will never improve the quality. That said, most modern analog to digital converters do a pretty good job and you should't notice much difference going through an extra conversion. But usually the shorter and simpler the signal chain the better. If you'r on a Mac, then you can create an aggregate I/O device and use the POD and Scarlet together at the same time. This is simple and convenient. You didn't say which POD you have. If its the PODX3, then it provides different audio devices for wet vs. dry. The HD500 takes a different approach using a Monitor control on the audio input device. Turn it all the way down and you're feeding the dry guitar to the DAW. Turn it all the way up and you're feeding the wet signal. If you record dry, the HD500 is difficult to use for re-amping. You might prefer to use a plugin. I find S-Gear to be an excellent choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasipi Posted February 24, 2015 Author Share Posted February 24, 2015 I'm thinking of purchasing a POD HD Desktop. I may consider using the POD interface if it works well enough. Previous POD interfaces have made latency a big issue for me and turned me off of home recording, but the 2i4 made it all better. Seemingly the only plugin that would work properly with the POD UX2 was POD Farm, and oddly enough POD Farm won't work with my 2i4 so.. Maybe the POD HD is better but i haven't purchased it yet so i don't know. Anyways i just want to know if using the 1/4" outs on the POD HD Desktop will work. I got the idea from this video: at about 2:15. Seems to work for Misha and his Axe FX but i can't really see what he's doing. Will it work for the POD? Also i would like to know if the XLR input on the POD HD Desktop can be used with my condenser & dynamic mics for vocals or acoustic guitar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 I have old EMU 1820 interface and HD Desktop works just fine with that....My interface has 8 analog inputs and I have recorded my HD Desktop using unbalanced cables and balanced cables (L and R ourputs are TRS)....My interface also has a coax spdif IO also....that works fine too for recording the POD...You can take a dry input off the spdif in the POD at the same time you take the processed on the Analog outs if you setup the pOD that way...If you interface supports ASIO configuration, then re-amping the dry track isn't much of a problem at all...It's just configuring the pathc IO on your interface... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjnette Posted February 24, 2015 Share Posted February 24, 2015 the latency throws him off using the 212. It has line input so you can use the POD HD into it. But it isn't necessary, use the HD you can still do everything n his tutorial. Also he could use the Axe II as interface unless there is a problem with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasipi Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 I have old EMU 1820 interface and HD Desktop works just fine with that....My interface has 8 analog inputs and I have recorded my HD Desktop using unbalanced cables and balanced cables (L and R ourputs are TRS)....My interface also has a coax spdif IO also....that works fine too for recording the POD...You can take a dry input off the spdif in the POD at the same time you take the processed on the Analog outs if you setup the pOD that way...If you interface supports ASIO configuration, then re-amping the dry track isn't much of a problem at all...It's just configuring the pathc IO on your interface... Thanks man! I've never used spdif before, where does the cable plug into? To be clear, are you saying i can use the 1/4" outs on the POD to record the processed guitar tone and the spdif to get the dry signal which can be used for reamping in my DAW? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spaceatl Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 I took a quick glance at the Scarlett 2i4....That's a 2 in, 4 out interface...Analog IO only...No digital IO...If you like focusrite, you gotta move to the 6i6 or the Saffire PRO 14 to get spdif...At least that what I saw.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laxtlo Posted February 25, 2015 Share Posted February 25, 2015 My opinion is that sound quality it much better when i connect my pod to external audio interface and in my case its roland quad-qapture UA-55. I found out when i was choosing audio interface that then spdif is needed price goes up !! my setup is Pod HD500x connected via spdif to roland quad capture ua-55 using ASIO drivers. It can be little bit confusing to setup your home studio but after all its very simple. Check Pod HD500X Advanded Guide 2.9 "When connecting to another digital device, it is best to clock the external device to follow POD HD500X to maintain proper synchronization - please see your digital device’s documentation for its digital clock features." You also have to setup your DAW sample rate etc input and outputs. Remember i am just a amateur and there is no point at all what i am saying but hopefully this will help a little bit :P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jasipi Posted February 25, 2015 Author Share Posted February 25, 2015 I took a quick glance at the Scarlett 2i4....That's a 2 in, 4 out interface...Analog IO only...No digital IO...If you like focusrite, you gotta move to the 6i6 or the Saffire PRO 14 to get spdif...At least that what I saw.... Ah, well i can't afford that haha Hopefully it can work the way i want it to, but if not i guess i'll just use the POD as the interface. It's the 'Direct Monitor' feature i mostly want to use, so i can play without latency. The best latency settings on my PC still cause me trouble and the cleans on all my amp plugins are worse than my Marshall MG15 Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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