ArielMechanix Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Hi, greets from Costa Rica. I'm so noob in the pod life, I got HD500X like 2 months ago. But I think I still don't get all the power the POD has. I notice all you tubers ARE NOT USING COMBO AMPS which is the most likely scenario a non G.A.S musician may have. At home I'm using a Randall combo amp with FX-LOOP I'm plugging left mono out put to the FX return and then the guitar to the pod. At home I got some patches I've modified and some sounds killer others sounds very crappy. At rehearsal we got some Fender combo amps and well the Issue is that all my patches either go so lollipoping dirty (full of distortion and unwanted gain) or so insipid (not so hard not so high, dead, pinky) Ive tried to modified those to be used with the fender lollipop but still the same crap or so unwanted lollipop or non tasty sounds. Can you guys give me advice and tips Fender I think is a mustang. I'm trying to play Thrash. I'd like to get patches from you guys (: My guitar has emg 60x 81x (: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pianoguyy Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 That's a sad fact of life. Changing external amps will make your perfectly tweaked patch into a big garbled mess. So will changing the volume. So will changing the room you are in (bedroom to basement to concert hall to different concert hall). You know what else... using your gear and then using a mic to get it to the pa, will again, make it sound different. Its really a trial and error situation. Just learn to tweak -- you can also save your patches. So, you may have 3 different versions of the same patch. One for each external amp. My basic advice to everyone is this: 1. Continue using your old gear live/rehearsal until you have practiced with your new gear at home enough to be able to say "I am ready to add this to my live rig". 2. If you are using an external amp, do not bother using the internal amps. A Marshall model will never sound like a Marshall when its coming out of a Fender. 3. Skip the amp, go direct to PA. 4. Headphones are a godsend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palico Posted March 5, 2015 Share Posted March 5, 2015 Are you going into the FX Loop on the Fenders or the Front of the Amp? That could make a huge difference. The basic problem is the Power amp and the Speakers on the Randall are not the same as the Power amp and the speakers on the Fender (even if you using the FX Loops on the fender). The POD can't change a 75 watt speaker in a 25 watt or the other way around. So the patches tweaked for one might not work in another. And some models on the POD might not work as well. Plus other factor such as if the Randall power section tube vs. what the Fenders are etc....? As pianoguyy above said you have to tweak this thing to what you are running it into. Also as he pointed out the most authentic sound is to run it into a system that is as Flat as possible, staight to PA is alternative some choose. There are others such as the PE60 amps, or the DT amps, but those are not free or cheap in some cases. I would guess most people playing the POD units live, do not use a differnet amp when they go from one location to the next. I do some Jam gigs around here where I'm not bringing my Amp, but I never bring my POD to those. I either just use what's available, or I got a couple old school pedals that I keep around. But truthfully even those old school pedals all react very differently to different amps. I've found you take some like the old standard DS-1 and plug it into a Fender and it typcially sounds weak and thin. Plug it into a Marshall, even the cleaner Marshall and you got a nice think tone. So even they suffer from the same thing. If your Randall is not loud enough for rehersing with then bring one of fenders home to tweak out or get there when you can and build up patches from ground up specificly for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArielMechanix Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Thank you guys for taking time in answering. I'm going on rehearsal on Sunday, I'll bring my pc to set some patches up for those fender amps. I didn't figured out about the amp internal gear, I think this helped me before going life with the pod, I might go to the place 1 hour before to set it up just like that. You guys are awesome, my band is just starting, I'll love if you guys watch this rehearsal vid, btw those (in the video) are the fender amps.http://youtu.be/X29Yo6-UEEE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArielMechanix Posted March 6, 2015 Author Share Posted March 6, 2015 Plaico, those Fenders doesn't have FX LOOP, I'm going straight to the amp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 Plaico, those Fenders doesn't have FX LOOP, I'm going straight to the amp. In my experience, running straight into an amp like that is always a mess. First, you're pushing amp models through the combo's preamp, which will color the tone significantly. Also, there is usually a lot of extra noise generated when you daisy-chain 2 pre-amps. You'll have to try the various output modes to see which one is going to work best...but be prepared to spend a lot of time until you get it right...and don't expect the tones to remain consistant from one amp to another, especially if you're running straight into some, and through the FX loop on others. Most likely you will have to set up different patches for different amps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palico Posted March 6, 2015 Share Posted March 6, 2015 In my experience, running straight into an amp like that is always a mess. First, you're pushing amp models through the combo's preamp, which will color the tone significantly. Also, there is usually a lot of extra noise generated when you daisy-chain 2 pre-amps. You'll have to try the various output modes to see which one is going to work best...but be prepared to spend a lot of time until you get it right...and don't expect the tones to remain consistant from one amp to another, especially if you're running straight into some, and through the FX loop on others. Most likely you will have to set up different patches for different amps. Yep ^ what he said. The POD does have output mode for the "Combo Front" that helps some. Run the EQ on the Fender straight up and down. You might also try maxing them. I watched your vid but I didn't see the fenders, just the Peavey speakers you had behind you. Can't tell much about tone because it sounded like that was just a cheap mic in the room picking up the overall sound. Based on the style of music you play, those Fender's aint gonna cut it for inhert tone, so I doubt the 4 cable method and using the Amps preamp would work for you. If you getting your gain mainly from a pedal instead of Amp sim, you could try it, but most likely it woudl sound thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArielMechanix Posted March 7, 2015 Author Share Posted March 7, 2015 Tanks for replying again video was recorded from my galaxy s4 :c You've helped me a lot guys I appreciate that, I'll let you know how is it going! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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