josephyballew Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I can understand an HD500X or a GT100 charging you for new effects and new models. It is a reasonable price point. Here is my fear: To buy a Helix and in two years stop updating the unit with improvements. I understand new units containing more memory and more efficient. This is one thing that is good about an Axe FX and a Kemper. They constantly giving new updates for even 5 years down the road for free. When they do come out with new units, it is more memory, more power and something like that. Both companies constantly update models and effects for free. That is taking care of your customers. What will be you policy on this new expensive unit? When you triple the price of the HD500X, that should mean this unit will continue to update with new models and effects at no cost like the AX FX and Kemper, Would you please explain what your policy will be on this unit. Where this unit kick all the other units is how accurate all the stomp boxes are. The weakness of this unit is the number of available amp models. My favorite amp of all time is The Friedman BBE 100. This and the Suhr amps are the very best modified Plexi sounds. The Bogner Ecstasy is not there. The Mesa mk5 is not there. Don't get me wrong. I know this is a new unit with all new models and it takes about one month to do one model. I have seen several people wanting the Friedman Brown Eye 100 here. What would be a deal breaker for me is to charge $99 for just the Friedman amp pack. What will your policy be? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duncann Posted September 5, 2015 Share Posted September 5, 2015 I'm with you on this, but with amps and effects switched. I hope they put way more effort in building the effects list rather amps. Line 6 has said many times that they can't talk about specific future update plans, but I would be really surprised if there aren't any. And being this product is in a different category than HD, I would expect if there are any updates that they are more frequent than HD and free, regardless of content. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruisinon2 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 The thing isn't even released yet, and already we're gonna start the hand-wringing over what may or may not happen with updates 2 years from now? How is it fun to live like that? For God's sake, THEY don't even know yet. Buy it (or not), play it, enjoy it...life is hard enough. And no matter how nicely you ask, they're not gonna read you the minutes from the last product development meeting anyway... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozbadman Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I can understand an HD500X or a GT100 charging you for new effects and new models. It is a reasonable price point. Here is my fear: To buy a Helix and in two years stop updating the unit with improvements. I understand new units containing more memory and more efficient. This is one thing that is good about an Axe FX and a Kemper. They constantly giving new updates for even 5 years down the road for free. When they do come out with new units, it is more memory, more power and something like that. Both companies constantly update models and effects for free. That is taking care of your customers. What will be you policy on this new expensive unit? When you triple the price of the HD500X, that should mean this unit will continue to update with new models and effects at no cost like the AX FX and Kemper, Would you please explain what your policy will be on this unit. Where this unit kick all the other units is how accurate all the stomp boxes are. The weakness of this unit is the number of available amp models. My favorite amp of all time is The Friedman BBE 100. This and the Suhr amps are the very best modified Plexi sounds. The Bogner Ecstasy is not there. The Mesa mk5 is not there. Don't get me wrong. I know this is a new unit with all new models and it takes about one month to do one model. I have seen several people wanting the Friedman Brown Eye 100 here. What would be a deal breaker for me is to charge $99 for just the Friedman amp pack. What will your policy be? The AxeFX2 replaced the old AxeFX/Ultra. The AxeFX/Ultra no longer receive updates. Only AxeFX2-based models receive updates due to the processing power required. So yeah, for modelling based processors, every 5 years or so you will have to replace your hardware as processing power increases. Additionally, when it's time to update, just sell the old one on eBay. You usually get at least 50% of the cost back, so think of it as renting your gear for 5 years at a very good price. I don't see how charging $1500 for the Helix, plus $99 for the Friedman pack could be a deal breaker, considering a new Friedman is $3700. $99 seems like a pretty good deal, and the Helix can do other amps as well!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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