Gibson ES345 (stereo) into HD500X guit + mic input?

[Wolf99]

wondering what would happen using both guit + xlr inputs for my old stereo Gibson ES345...with a stereo 1/4" coming from the guitar out to a split 1/4" mono + xlr plug (for the mic input)?

[bjnette]

Bring it in on one of the FX returns as it is not mic level but you could try it but not sure why not just split the guitar into two amp blocks

[Wolf99]

not sure why not just split the guitar into two amp blocks

cause i wouldn't be able to use both pick-ups since the ES345 is wired for stereo output.

[kinglerch]

wondering what would happen using both guit + xlr inputs for my old stereo Gibson ES345...with a stereo 1/4" coming from the guitar out to a split 1/4" mono + xlr plug (for the mic input)?

 

This is a great question, even if someone wants to have 2 guitars or whatever, what is the recommended way to use a second input? You could of course sum them back into mono, but that would defeat the purpose. The POD seems more than capable of handling more than one signal, so hopefully the gurus here will let us know what the recommended way is.

[pianoguyy]

I know that it is still Saturday night even though the sun is up... 

But, am I missing something? 

 

Plug them both into the Pod. Yes, the Pod can handle 2 inputs at the same time. We can even run signal chains (separate, together, or faded). 

[Wolf99]

You could of course sum them back into mono, but that would defeat the purpose.

been there done that.

the pick-ups in my 345 are wired 'out-of-phase'. summing them back into mono makes the sound real tinny...

apparently not all 345's are wired like this. mine is.

i think there's a way to rewire the guitar but i don't like the idea of it. it's a 1967...and it should stay as it is...at least that's where i'm comin' from.

 

they made this guitar to be plugged into 2 seperate amps. one for each pick-up.

 

if the HD500X had '2' 1/4" mono guitar inputs then i wouldn't ask this question.

will i screw up the Pod by plugging a electric guitar into the mic xlr input?

 

@pianoguyy

>I know that it is still Saturday night even though the sun is up...

>Plug them both into the Pod. Yes, the Pod can handle 2 inputs at the same time

 

are you suggesting to plug an electric guitar into the mic xlr input? If not then you didn't understand my question or it might be Monday for you :)

[bjnette]

cause i wouldn't be able to use both pick-ups since the ES345 is wired for stereo output.

Understood. Put it on the Aux or Mic in or your own DI / Pre to FX return.

 

The p'up signal needs to be pre amplified and both Mic pre and Aux in can but the Aux in will probably be a better impedance match but try each out.

Manual Quote

"21. Aux In - This mono, unbalanced 1/4" input can be used for a second guitar or just about any other instrument. Visit the System & I/O edit pages for Aux In routing options."

[brue58ski]

+1 on The Aux input. It is there for a second instrument. And by panning hard left and right, you can create 2 discrete paths.  I've done it. Bass on one path, guitar on the other. It seemed to be an instrument level input, just like the guitar input.

[Wolf99]

Understood. Put it on the Aux or Mic in or your own DI / Pre to FX return.

 

The p'up signal needs to be pre amplified and both Mic pre and Aux in can but the Aux in will probably be a better impedance match but try each out.

Manual Quote

"21. Aux In - This mono, unbalanced 1/4" input can be used for a second guitar or just about any other instrument. Visit the System & I/O edit pages for Aux In routing options."

 

+1 on The Aux input. It is there for a second instrument. And by panning hard left and right, you can create 2 discrete paths.  I've done it. Bass on one path, guitar on the other. It seemed to be an instrument level input, just like the guitar input.

 

Thanks!

Aux input WORKS and is exactly what I was looking for. All I wanted was to be able to use both pickups. The bonus are the routing options. With input setup set to 'preset' i can use different amps for ea pickup. Cool.

 

 

On a different note (for what it's worth):

 

Even though the guitars are 2 very different animals, my 2013 MIM Strat sounds A LOT better plugged into the Pod than the 1967 Gibson. On the other hand, that Gibson plugged into my pre-cbs Princeton blows the MIM strat back to Mexico :)

[bjnette]

Glad you got it sorted. Makes me want to install a dual output in one of my instruments.

 

On the other note, you could try the usual polarity toggles on the HD and then the impedance settings;

Auto is supposed to sense what is needed but I doubt it by the wild variances different guitars and even different p'ups 

give. 

Gibs being h'buckers and slightly higher output pups and  it's impedience gives the Princeton a desired match. 

The MIM might just need to go into a pedal first.

 

I found I needed to shield all my guitars as the HD being basically a computer/amp gave off electromagnetic waves that the p'ups picked up this stray magnetism. Unavoidable when standing over the HD and using it or closer editing it like being too close to your amp.