njglover Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I am very close to being able to use the Helix by itself as my entire rig, but one thing that is holding me up is fuzz. There just aren't a lot of good options on the Helix, particularly for bass players. I have found something that I can make work for guitar, but bass... What I am trying to mimic is my Malekko Plus Ultra with the filter on. I leave sustain and tone at 12 o'clock and frequency at 3. This gets me a tone that sustains forever, scoops the mids a bit to still leave room for guitars but not in such a way as to get hidden (in that I want people to know I have a fuzz turned on), and is nice and aggressive. I just cannot seem to get that out of anything on the Helix, be it distortion or fuzz pedals or even blending with guitar amps. Anyone else managed to get a good fuzz tone? For reference, skip to about 3:04 in this song: http://gunbladex.bandcamp.com/track/remain. That's the exact tone (because that's my bass with my fuzz :P) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanecgriffo Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 i'm not sure it will be the sound you're after but worh a try -using the kwb pedal set with germanium options.. it's a little different flavour than the other dedicated fuzz's . i use it with a compulsive drive after it. on guitar tho.. also try adjusting your volume knob on the bass with any of the pedals , it may or may not help get closer to the sound you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zooey Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 I think some bass fuzzes mix a low-passed and probably compressed clean sound with distorted overtones, going for solid bottom with fuzz on top. You could try home-growing something like that with Helix's routing options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njglover Posted September 6, 2016 Author Share Posted September 6, 2016 I think some bass fuzzes mix a low-passed and probably compressed clean sound with distorted overtones, going for solid bottom with fuzz on top. You could try home-growing something like that with Helix's routing options. That is pretty normal, and I have tried that. Generally using the crossover split makes the distortion sound like garbage, but using an A/B split helps. i'm not sure it will be the sound you're after but worh a try -using the kwb pedal set with germanium options.. it's a little different flavour than the other dedicated fuzz's . i use it with a compulsive drive after it. on guitar tho.. also try adjusting your volume knob on the bass with any of the pedals , it may or may not help get closer to the sound you want. Have tried that, not nearly enough dirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steevo1977 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I think you could achieve that bass sound easy on Helix. Blending of tones using different effects and mixing up amps/cabs/mics has allowed very accurate recreation of tones from almost any record you can think. What about creating an IR from your track/s and applying that to the back end of the amp block? Good luck at any rate! Warning: The following is only personal opinion! I found that track you linked interesting. Some really nice ideas however the drumming was really poor. The timing is constantly out in a very noticeable way. Entice the drummer to practice a lot more to get that sorted ASAP (for the sake of the band) or get a new drummer.... ...it's by far the weakest point and will hold your band back. Your music doesn't deserve that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njglover Posted September 8, 2016 Author Share Posted September 8, 2016 I think you could achieve that bass sound easy on Helix. Blending of tones using different effects and mixing up amps/cabs/mics has allowed very accurate recreation of tones from almost any record you can think. What about creating an IR from your track/s and applying that to the back end of the amp block? Good luck at any rate! Warning: The following is only personal opinion! I found that track you linked interesting. Some really nice ideas however the drumming was really poor. The timing is constantly out in a very noticeable way. Entice the drummer to practice a lot more to get that sorted ASAP (for the sake of the band) or get a new drummer.... ...it's by far the weakest point and will hold your band back. Your music doesn't deserve that. I uh... don't disagree. He has gotten a lot better since then, but his double bassing still needs some work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steevo1977 Posted September 8, 2016 Share Posted September 8, 2016 I uh... don't disagree. He has gotten a lot better since then, but his double bassing still needs some work. Very tactfully put. Good that there has been improvement and everyone has to start somewhere I guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njglover Posted September 12, 2016 Author Share Posted September 12, 2016 AHAHA! I finally did it. Spent like a week messing around and mostly being frustrated, but now I have finally done it. Run an A/B split, set to B 30, then on the B path put a Triangle Fuzz running into a 1x12 US Deluxe cab with the 30 Dynamic mic and then an EQ to fine tune after that. It's a little dumb, and frankly I shouldn't have to do all that, but it works. Now I can finally play with nothing but the Helix! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roscoe5 Posted September 12, 2016 Share Posted September 12, 2016 That is so crazy, I'm going to have to try it! I haven't tried to get a Helix fuzz in my bass yet. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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