mileskb Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 So I was thinking... while completely unnecessary, of combining back in some of the deleted Factory presets. I actually find scrolling through them inspiring. I guess my thinking is.. why not. But it also begs the why were the taken out question. It's not like there isn't enough room. I thought some of the removed ones were kinda nice.. Discuss...??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malhavok Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 11 new presets were added, so 11 were taken out. I spot checked a bunch of the factory presets that carried over and found zero sonic changes to the parameters. You can get the list of changed presets from this other thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malhavok Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 As far as why to take some out, my best guess is Line 6 are trying to stick with no more than three banks of factory presets. Helix has eight banks, but I already use at least four set lists for my own: Guitar, Bass, Downloads, Church. I appreciate that I don't have to delete or overwrite a bunch of factory sounds to do it. In case you're counting, that still leaves me with one open bank. I name that one FACTORY OLD where I put all the deleted factory presets from 2.10 and previous updates. I'll be good until they amass more than 128 deleted presets and then I'll be scratching my head for what to do next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 As a brand new Helix owner, with a factory new Helix containing 1.06.5 firmware planning on installing 2.10 today or tomorrow, what is the procedure to install the two old deleted factory Preset groups after extracting (unzipping) the two downloaded zip file from your site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digital_Igloo Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 CS is in the process of collecting all the old presets and uploading them to CustomTone. There will probably be a knowledge base article with links. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quickdraw Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I will have to throw this out there though... I believe the factory presets have been tweaked a bit in the latest firmware... scrolling through them tonight I am finding some of the old ones that I would not give the time of day sounding pretty sweet... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malhavok Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I spot checked about 20 presets from previous to current firmware (using a differ) and the only "changes" are the additional tracking for expression pedals. There were zero parameter tweaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mileskb Posted November 24, 2016 Author Share Posted November 24, 2016 I will have to throw this out there though... I believe the factory presets have been tweaked a bit in the latest firmware... scrolling through them tonight I am finding some of the old ones that I would not give the time of day sounding pretty sweet... I spot checked about 20 presets from previous to current firmware (using a differ) and the only "changes" are the additional tracking for expression pedals. There were zero parameter tweaks. While there may be zero parameter tweaks, Improvements in other area's of the device "could" have an effect on tone. I noticed things sounded better after the 1st update last year... I'm sure they are constantly tweaking the algorithms and such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malhavok Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of secret sauce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzman Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 I tried most of the presets yesterday and they sound much better! And the new ones sound great. to me the amp models sound much better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MusicLaw Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 CS is in the process of collecting all the old presets and uploading them to CustomTone. There will probably be a knowledge base article with links.This could be an outstandingly awesome resource tool! Particularly for those of us new to the HELIX world learning what the gear can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guitarzman Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 CS is in the process of collecting all the old presets and uploading them to CustomTone. There will probably be a knowledge base article with links. Great to hear D I awesome work with the new 2.10 update, love the new Litigator Line 6 original amp model it has a great Dumble tone best I've heard yet! And not to mention the Stupor Boss SD-1 Overdrive pedal. is smokin hot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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