stevejk86 Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 Hi guys ive just bought a Helix and intend to use it in place of my boss gt8. I play in a covers band who use cubase Daw live and i have always used banks per song with 4 patches of sounds for each song ( verse chorus solo etc ) It looks like Helix is geared up for this, particulary with the snapshots but what i would like to do is send a midi command to call up each song from cubase to the Helix so i dont have to think about finding it in the Helix. From what i can see Helix will be able to do this but is it possible to command the next preset to be ready on the Helix but not actually selected. Same as if i was selecting the next bank on a multi effects board but cueing it ready but havent actually hit the patch to start the sound. Basically i want cubase to send the midi command at the to selct the next song to be ready before we have finished the song we are currently on in the setlist Thanks for any help and advice on this, looking foward to getting stuck into it and dialling all my sounds in from my gt8 Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpointmetal Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I'm not sure why you would need that. If you have it set up to go to a patch/snapshot with a command at the beginning of each song, there shouldn't be a need to show you the banks flashing on the board ahead of time, it will just go there when the command comes through. Unless I'm misunderstanding you and you want to "pre-load" the next patch into so there's no drop out when the patches switch, but that's not possible on Helix no matter how you have it set up. There is always a slight delay between presets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil_m Posted May 15, 2017 Share Posted May 15, 2017 I'm a little confused as to when you want to send the MIDI command to Cubase... Are you saying you want to send a command to call up the next song before you end the song you're playing? If you do that won't it mess up the song you're currently in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejk86 Posted May 15, 2017 Author Share Posted May 15, 2017 ok so the idea is currenty our DAW automatically cues up to the next track in the set and the instant it cues up i want the same song preset to cue in Helix but not actually be selected. This is because in some songs we play past the Daw tracks or i might let the guitar ring out with overdrive at the end of a song. If it selects the next song ( as the Daw will ) while im doiing this my sound is going to change before we actually start the next song. Hope you get what i mean :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mkornell Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Yup, understand what you mean. No, you can't cue up a preset on the Helix without making it go into effect. When the DAW starts the next song on the list, what do you do for counting in? If the track has 1 or 2 bars lead in, have the DAW fire off the MIDI command to the Helix during the lead in. You'll have to trust your rig to work, but that should get the correct Helix preset loaded before you start playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejk86 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 Yes that's what I'm thinking I'm going to have to do but it would be nice if I could see the correct preset cued up ready on the display , even if just for peice of mind and knowing what song is next without the need of a written set list. Are you sure there's no workaround for this ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gunpointmetal Posted May 16, 2017 Share Posted May 16, 2017 Nope, you can load exactly one preset at a time into the display. What you're asking the hardware to do isn't a feature that can be achieved manually at this point. If you're already playing to a predetermined set that you aren't stopping/starting manually (I do this too, with both of my original bands), you should be able to just have the preset switch on the 8th note before the "1" of the next song on your count-in. If you're going to have you drummer or keyboardist manually start each song, you should be able to add a "Stop" command into Cubase at the end of each track so the backing will stop but your preset won't change until you start the next track in the set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejk86 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 yea im geussing what im going to do is to make sure a drive snappoint of the song preset is the landing point of the next song as so if im ending with distortion from previous song it will ring out ( we have no songs that finish on a clean setting ) Then il just select the clean patch myself as the song starts. Thanks for the advice though , im not into all the amp modelling but i am looking foward to replacing the effects fron ny previous gt8 , hopefully they will sound much better considering the jump in technology Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevejk86 Posted May 16, 2017 Author Share Posted May 16, 2017 actually i might do as advised and change the preset on the 4 count..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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