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So, I've run into an issue with the Helix. 

 

I have come to realize that even when an effect block, for instance a fuzz, is turned off in the signal chain, it clearly changes the tone of my sound (compared to when it's not in the signal chain at all). In this case, with the fuzz effect, it takes away a lot of the high end of the tone of the amp. Anyone else having an issue with this? Not sure if it's supposed to be a feature, I'm really annoyed by it. Think my firmware version is the latest, 2.20. 

 

Sincerely, Axel 

 

 

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So, I've run into an issue with the Helix. 

 

I have come to realize that even when an effect block, for instance a fuzz, is turned off in the signal chain, it clearly changes the tone of my sound (compared to when it's not in the signal chain at all). In this case, with the fuzz effect, it takes away a lot of the high end of the tone of the amp. Anyone else having an issue with this? Not sure if it's supposed to be a feature, I'm really annoyed by it. Think my firmware version is the latest, 2.20. 

 

Sincerely, Axel 

There is an issue with the input impedance setting on "Auto" and a fuzz in the first block in your signal chain. With your input impedance set on auto, the input impedance changes when you activate the fuzz block, but it doesn't change back when the fuzz is turned off. Your tone will be different. 

 

The work around is assigning input impedance values to the stomp that activates the fuzz block so that you are switching between two impedance values when turning on/off the fuzz. 

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Are you sure about that? I haven't tested, but I thought people said the first block ALWAYS affects input impedence, whether it's on or not.

 

It does... What he's saying is that you can assign the input impedance parameter to be controlled by a footswitch as a controller so it toggles between two values. You can also have a different input impedance assigned per snapshot if you want.

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This was the first "issue" I encountered when getting to know my Helix - the solution is to put the fuzz first in the chain (as you would do in real life) and with the fuzz off, set the z input to the full value (1M from memory) to get a nice bright cleaner tone

 

Then set the fuzz foot-switch to not only turn the fuzz on & off but to change the input z parameter over to auto, so that you get a darker spongy tone with the fuzz on

 

Done & sorted  

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It does... What he's saying is that you can assign the input impedance parameter to be controlled by a footswitch as a controller so it toggles between two values. You can also have a different input impedance assigned per snapshot if you want.

Yeah, that. I am an engineer so I don't English very goodly. Words are hard for me. 

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