markhenesian Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Hi All, I uploaded my tone patch for my Turkish/Armenia Oud that I created for my Line 6 Spider IV HD150 head/Line 6 4x12 cab combo. My Oud uses a piezo electric pickup (early '80's Barkus Berry) attached to the Oud face with a thin layer of white "sticky goop", around 1" below the treble side of the bridge. The setup should also work great on a Spanish guitar or the larger Arabic Oud with a similar piezo pickup in the bridge area. In the old days (60's, 70's) we would have used a full tube amp (e.g. Fender Twin-Reverb) with a 1 Megohm input impedance. Solid state amps of that era would have a very thin sound and low fidelity with the low output levels from a non-preamplified piezo pickup. PA systems are similarly crippled by a low imput impedance, thus requiring a solid-state preamp and a lot of "EQ" work to get a decent sound. But I think that I have now captured that great old tube amp sound for the Oud. Use Line 6's Class A Amplifier model with a drive setting of 25. That boosts the piezo pickup output level and fidelity without adding distortion. The Clean amplifier model with a drive of 50 to 65 could also work. Oud Solo patch: Mark Henesian 1/19/18 Amp model: Class A Drive: 25 Bass: 95 Mid: 45 - 65 Treble: 85 Channel Vol: 55 Boost: 1.5 db pre/2.5 db post (normally OFF) FX1: Red compressor, Post Sensitivity: 18% Level: 87% FX2: Analog Chorus: Tap don't control, Post Speed: 0.7 Hz Depth: 75% Bass: 45 Treble: 55 Mix: 50% FX3: Analog Delay: Tap don't control, Post Time: 175 ms Feedback: 17% Bass: 50 Treble: 50 Mix: 25% Reverb: Lux Spring, Post Dwell: 17% Tone 66% Mix: 45% Noise Gate: Threshold: -50 db Decay 11% normally OFF Thanks, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psarkissian Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 Chisht, lav. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fflbrgst Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Glad you got it to work. The best solution (allowing hooking up to any PA /amp), is to plug the instrument into a preamp with piezo input (like the Radial PZ-Pre). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markhenesian Posted January 29, 2018 Author Share Posted January 29, 2018 Thanks psarkissian and fflbrgst for the encouragement !!! So far 17 downloads ! I find that if I set the "Red Compressor" to the "pre" (amplifier) rather than the "post" (amplifier) position, the Spanish Guitar/Oud type sound improves. The Line 6 red compressor in the "post" position rolls off the high frequencies and bumps the mid frequencies a bit, which limits the frequency response of the piezo-electric pickup. The "pre" position has a flatter frequency response, although it's only my ears making the measurement, Thanks, Mark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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