Adam_T Posted January 26, 2019 Share Posted January 26, 2019 I`ve already got the 240 2X12 version of the Spider V but wanted a smaller amp as well to use at church and it made sense to have a smaller SP-V as it`ll use my Transmitter and patches .. found a used 120 for a great price (didn`t want to drop to 10" speaker" .. after the 240, the 120 seems very directional, it`s fuller sounding than I expected given the significant drop in cabinet size but go off axis and you lose that, the big stereo 240 eliminates this to a large degree, the only amp I`ve had that`s as directional as the 120 is the Engl Screamer 50 ... some my 240 patches needed a little tweaking of the post EQ to fatten up the low end but on the whole they worked superbly .. very impressed with the amp , it`s loud enough for small gigs but the difference in volume between it and the 240 is a lot more than comparing a 50W to a 100W valve amp would be, the 240 literally Thunders, even fully clean . Two Firmware / App additions I think would be valuable would be an option to back up the whole amp like Vox and Fender offer - it was a pain writing my presets one by one to the amp , this is what you`d have to do if the amp ever had to be reset to factory .. there`s no backup dump option .. The second is an option Format the presets leaving them all totally blank so users are forced to make their own and never have to hear the attrocious collection of factory presets which are that bad they must have been programmed by someone working their notice . Line 6 Desperately need to get some decent Factory sounds in this - these amps are infinitely better than you could imagine after hearing out of the box Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_T Posted January 28, 2019 Author Share Posted January 28, 2019 on a Further note - I tried running both amps together off the same G10T transmitter using the same patch and it was amazing, it sounded far bigger than you`d think it would especially if you modify one of the patches slightly FX wise . EG I had the 240 running a lead patch with no delay and had strong delay version on the 120 ..... Two Acoustic sims , one copying a bright Taylor, the other a Yamaha APX (used a strat on the neck and middle for this) and it sounded like two acoustics in a large room , massive sound, well impressed ....... even could add the G10 receiver on the same channel again into another amp etc . in hindsight , two 120s setup this way would make a good club rig, shame there wasn`t a way of changing patches on both amps from one floorboard 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeaRefractor Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 On 1/26/2019 at 7:10 AM, Adam_T said: Two Firmware / App additions I think would be valuable would be an option to back up the whole amp like Vox and Fender offer - it was a pain writing my presets one by one to the amp , this is what you`d have to do if the amp ever had to be reset to factory .. there`s no backup dump option .. This is where the PC Spider Remote and the Mobile device Spider Remote need to get closer to parity. With the PC version, I can backup all the presets. I've done this for factory and also for any modified sets. Alas no tone cloud connectivity. Smartphone I have to deal with the backup individually but have tone cloud connectivity. Let's hope this continues to move towards unity of features across both platforms. 7 hours ago, Adam_T said: on a Further note - I tried running both amps together off the same G10T transmitter using the same patch and it was amazing, it sounded far bigger than you`d think it would especially if you modify one of the patches slightly FX wise . EG I had the 240 running a lead patch with no delay and had strong delay version on the 120 ..... Two Acoustic sims , one copying a bright Taylor, the other a Yamaha APX (used a strat on the neck and middle for this) and it sounded like two acoustics in a large room , massive sound, well impressed ....... even could add the G10 receiver on the same channel again into another amp etc . in hindsight , two 120s setup this way would make a good club rig, shame there wasn`t a way of changing patches on both amps from one floorboard Mind blown! Line 6, if you hadn't thought of this you should pick it up and carry it to a touchdown! Imagine the ability for customers to widen their sound stage using transmitters and multiple amps! Add some additional code flexibility for one to designate one V 120 as left and the other as right and you'd have a very wide stereo sound stage. Figure out the ability for the wireless to communicate patch changes and the floorboard would only need to be on a single amp. Adam_T, you get the double gold star award! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_T Posted January 29, 2019 Author Share Posted January 29, 2019 Thanks Seafactor - I didn`t realise that the PC App did backups - Gold stars back atcha ! ....................... and the multi-SP-V setup really works well - I bet two 240s , one either side of the stage, one delayed by a small amount will create a colossal sound akin to what an Ant hears standing in front of a Yamaha THR10 ..... you can do it yourself by making dedicated patches for the job but it even with just normal ones it beefs up the sound live massively even with a 240 and a 120 . What I really like is that you can have different patches on each amp to create massive layered sounds ........... As for line-6 making use of this "easter-egg" ------- no chance , we`re talking of a company which thinks that presets that make a superb 2X12 modelling amp sound like a £25 gear4music practice amp are the way to go :( , though in all fairness, thankfully they made the things capable of excellent quality, they simply can`t make patches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam_T Posted January 30, 2019 Author Share Posted January 30, 2019 Another addition ................. Whereas you can use any number of amps with one transmitter (as the amps are oblivious to any others around) , sadly you can`t use two transmitters with one amp ---- they`re obviously ID encoded to stop this, no doubt to stop crosstalk.. if two performers are on the same stage with SPVs and the G10Ts both pick the same channel , it`d be mayhem . I know someone who also has a 240 , we`re going to try two 240s and a 120 in a large hall to see what 600W of Acoustic Sim sounds like .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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