themetallikid Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 Does anyone have any sort of graphs using some fancy equipment i can't afford that shows the rolloffs of the low/hi cuts of the various EQ's? We have moved to a new PA system and I'm struggling with getting the right high end bite without shrill/ice pick 'noise'. I had it dialed in pretty well with my 'current/ex' soundguy...and as much as he raved about my latest presets being my best....I do not know what he was doing in the mixer. I've setup a few test presets with different snapshots....each one with increasing/decreasing low/hi cuts so I can hear which sounds best with the current speaker setup, however.... If I find a rolloff range that works well in my preset, I'd like to set that as the range on the boards low/hi cuts. NOW....I know some will frown about that, but it would save me a block in my chain, and if all my presets sound good at 120/8k, then I dont see the issue with setting a 'global EQ cut' at that range. Sure there may be some that require more/less of a cut, but as long as the global on the lowest/highest setting of whatever I decide is where it sits, it shouldnt affect anything more than it should. Just looking for something that shows me the visual curves of those low/hi cuts as our mixer is the Behringer Xair series, and I can see the EQ curves for my guitars channel. any help? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arislaf Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/helix-high-low-cuts-ir-block-vs-eq-block.1860254/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 ahh, much thanks, I couldn't remember if it was here or TGP that I saw something like that. Thank you, I can't view that forum at work, so I'll have to check it out when I get home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njglover Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 EQ blocks may technically be the better way to go, but I find just using the cuts on the cab blocks to be sufficient. And if you already have a cab setup somewhere (which you presumably do), then you don't need to use another block for a high or low cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themetallikid Posted February 12, 2019 Author Share Posted February 12, 2019 1 hour ago, njglover said: EQ blocks may technically be the better way to go, but I find just using the cuts on the cab blocks to be sufficient. And if you already have a cab setup somewhere (which you presumably do), then you don't need to use another block for a high or low cut. I get your points... however, at the end of my chain, I still prefer to have an EQ (usually parametric) where I adjust the low/hi cuts as I run direct to the board. With my last presets I was hovering around 120-12k, but with the new PA we are using the 12k seems a bit high as I get lots of shrill bite and am thinking I may 'globally' on the board want to roll that down to around 8k or something, that way I can save one extra block in my chain if possible. I don't use the stock cabs, I'm using some IR's I prefer. I typically blend 2 of them (please give us a stereo IR block so we don't have to use the parallel option for this) one is the typical front of the cab, the other is a 'rear' cab sound which I blend in just enough to give it some more depth and resonance in the low end. Works well for me.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njglover Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 If you are going to do global cuts anyway, you could also just use the global EQ on the Helix. IR blocks also have cuts, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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