Parallel vs Serial signal path for dual amps

[themetallikid]

I feel like this should be an obvious answer...but...here we go..

 

 

work on new templates/core sounds and all.  I have my 'template' for single amps (about 10 presets)...then copied them into dual amps to be used to create song preset versions for live use.  

 

However, when creating my dual amp presets I'm running into dsp issues on path 1.  So, being that there are some things I'll need to add for song specific effects and all.....I need to create some dsp power in my path 1....

 

If I run my amps in serial path flow between path 1 and 2...will that give me the same sound when using snapshots to bypass/engage blocks I need?  I dont see why it wouldnt...

[rd2rk]

Dual amps only NEED to be in parallel paths if you're using them concurrently and combining their sound. If you're only using one at a time then putting them in separate paths will not affect the sound of the effects in those paths, as long as you don't put effects between them, as then one amp would have the effect after it and the other would have the effect before it, and that might be weird. I have some faux 3 channel amps set up this way, with Nrm and Brt at the end of Path A and Jump at the beginning of Path B. 

[themetallikid]

Yeah that's what I was aniticipating doing...moving the 'B' amp down to Path 2.....right now, I've used path 1 as my input >Amp and path 2 as my Cab>output....but on some of my heavier presets....using an Pre EQ, Wah, OD to boost the amp, Amp, and on a 2nd path mostly the same thing....when I go to add  another OD to add some different flavor for leads, I run out of dsp, and that's without song specific effects yet....and trying to use the 3Sigma guitar iR's I bought.

[rd2rk]

2 hours ago, themetallikid said:

Yeah that's what I was aniticipating doing...moving the 'B' amp down to Path 2.....right now, I've used path 1 as my input >Amp and path 2 as my Cab>output....but on some of my heavier presets....using an Pre EQ, Wah, OD to boost the amp, Amp, and on a 2nd path mostly the same thing....when I go to add  another OD to add some different flavor for leads, I run out of dsp, and that's without song specific effects yet....and trying to use the 3Sigma guitar iR's I bought.

 

EQ, WAH and OD blocks can be re-used by changing the settings with Snapshots but, yeah, if you need to use multiple models of those then DSP could well become an issue. using multiple IRs also eats up DSP. Priorities!

[themetallikid]

Yeah that's part of the reason I initially explored the Amp + Cab block when starting my rebirth of preset creation was to save space/routing issues.  However, I came across some IRs by Leon Todd that sounded really good for what I like in my tones, and went back to his IR.  Good news is only need one, not 2 like I was doing with the Ownhammer stuff...so that saves me a parallel routing on Path 2 at least. 

 

I've had to do some snapshot changes in the EQ blocks to change and all, but for the OD's...I don't really change settings much, rather the type.  I've really liked the Heir Apparent in front of the amps lately....but its a little too 'tight' for my lead preference, so I turn that off, and throw an 808 in front....it doesn't really change the gain structure much (maybe a hotter signal out of the 808 into the amp, and a touch more gain in the amp itself) but the sound is a bit more loose/forgiving and I think it allows my other guitar players tight rhythm tone to punch underneath my leads more. 

 

So far that's been the only issue I've had...but I think changing from parallel to serial with the amps and moving amp #2 to Path 2, should definitely help free that up.  My post cab stuff is pretty simple, EQ/Reverb/Delay/Volume block....Only thing I'd be adding later might be a phaser or delay block on Path 2.