Helix Native Stereo Bus

[ToominDev]

I'm using Logic Pro X and Helix Native as a plugin. I'm trying to put the Helix Native on a stereo bus track to have two mono tracks run into panned hard left and right. When I have the tracks set up without the plugin, everything works fine, I can hear the panned audio through the bus. But as soon as I put the Helix Native plugin on it, everything gets converted to mono. I know there's a way to have the panning set up with two amplifiers, but that totally defeats the purpose of having a single plugin on a bus. Am I missing something with the plugin or is it not possible to use it the same way as every other ampsim on the market including PodFarm?

[lobbe]

Same problem here. Can't get a stereo sound even with just a reverb loaded into HN. What am I missing?

[phil_m]

On 12/1/2020 at 7:57 PM, ToominDev said:

I'm using Logic Pro X and Helix Native as a plugin. I'm trying to put the Helix Native on a stereo bus track to have two mono tracks run into panned hard left and right. When I have the tracks set up without the plugin, everything works fine, I can hear the panned audio through the bus. But as soon as I put the Helix Native plugin on it, everything gets converted to mono. I know there's a way to have the panning set up with two amplifiers, but that totally defeats the purpose of having a single plugin on a bus. Am I missing something with the plugin or is it not possible to use it the same way as every other ampsim on the market including PodFarm?

Amp and cab blocks are mono in Native (with the exception of the dual cab block). So if you have a stereo signal coming into an amp block, it will be summed to mono. And, yes, this is different than how POD Farm handled stereo signals. I believe it’s primarily because of the close integration of Native with the Helix hardware.

[phil_m]

2 hours ago, lobbe said:

Same problem here. Can't get a stereo sound even with just a reverb loaded into HN. What am I missing?

Not sure on this one. A reverb block will maintain stereo separation on the dry side. There is bleed from one side to the other as far as the wet signal is concerned, though. But this is pretty much how all stereo reverbs work.

[soundog]

Also, read through these forum threads regarding Helix Native and stereo output. Please let us know if you find the solution therein.

 

https://line6.com/support/topic/46963-helix-native-output-panning-issues-in-logic-pro-x/?tab=comments#comment-298156

 

https://line6.com/support/topic/29571-cant-figure-out-hard-panning-of-guitars/?tab=comments#comment-328058

 

https://line6.com/support/topic/32305-panning-your-hxn-guitar-within-a-stereo-track/?tab=comments#comment-248159

[lou-kash]

On 12/2/2020 at 2:57 AM, ToominDev said:

I know there's a way to have the panning set up with two amplifiers

 

And that's the logical (pun not intended :) way:

 

On 12/2/2020 at 2:57 AM, ToominDev said:

but that totally defeats the purpose of having a single plugin on a bus. Am I missing something

 

It's an amp simulation.

In the real world, unless you have a special guitar amp with a stereo input, any other standard guitar (pre)amp will process the input signal in mono, no matter how many hard panned guitars you plug in. So the plugin just does what you would expect from a real guitar amp here.

 

On 12/10/2020 at 1:18 PM, lobbe said:

Can't get a stereo sound even with just a reverb loaded into HN. What am I missing?

 

Aux bus in mono?

Native in Dual Mono mode?

Mono reverb loaded?

Hard to tell without letting us know the details…