[Solved] HX Stomp, Origin 20C and 4cm routing problems

[richi_999r]

Hi to all!

i use hx stomp with my Marshall Origin 20C and i'd like to use 4cm but when i connect as on the manual or every guide on internet, i can't hear any block after fx loop, like a delay or modulation.

i bought an amp after 2 years with an frfr cab and after 10 years using plugin or multifx with headphones so it's my first time with 4CM

 

this is my chain:

Guitar -> Polytune -> Crybaby -> HX Stomp in -> every 4CM default preset -> HX send to Origin Input  -> Origin Send to HX return -> HX output to Origin return -> Torpedo captor to mixer

 

Settings in Stomp are all instuments level and return set up as return and not aux in

 

i'd like to use drive from Stomp and i have modulation 90% of the time on, like Chorus or Phaser. I tried to put everything in the Origin input but modulation sounds muddy in the preamp

my patch are pretty much like this:

Kinky Boost - Alpaca Rouge - Fx loop mono - EQ - modulation - delay

my amp is set up on the break up and i play with my guitar volume to achieve clean

 

i tried to explain as my best what my problem is, i hope someone can help me because i'm a little bit discouraged with everything 

Thank You

Riccardo

Edited January 12, 2022 by richi_999r

[silverhead]

Just to make sure….. are the Send and Return blocks in your Helix preset turned on? Seems obvious, I know, but I’ve seen this before.

…. btw… what is the ‘Torpedo capture’ you mention?

[richi_999r]

Hi, thanks.

I used a single FX loop mono, i have to use two different blocks Send and return?

if Yes, why on manual is mentioned fx loop? am i wrong? 

if not, all blocks are turned on to be sure to hear everything from the amp

 

sorry, the torpedo captor is the attenuator from Two Notes Audio Engineering

 

[silverhead]

Using the FX Loop is good. I thought you were using individual Send/Return blocks from your description. Just make sure the FX Loop block is ON.

 

Check Global Setting -> Ins/Outs -> Return Type. Here's a snip frtom the manual for that setting:

Determines whether the signal received at the Return jacks should be used for Return and FX Loop blocks—or—act as a stereo Aux In (no processing) for jamming along with mixers, MP3 players, etc. To utilize the Return jacks for an unprocessed Aux In, set the preset’s Input block to “Main L/R” - this allows your instrument signal (connected via the Main L/R input) to be heard simultaneously along with the (unprocessed) Return L/R signal for jamming along.

 

What type of cables are you using? Ts or TRS?

[silverhead]

Also... check pg 34 in the manual re: FX Loop Settings

[richi_999r]

My return type is set to be Return

 

i'm using TS cables

just read pg34 from the manual, the only thing i'm not 100% sure is the dry/wet blend on my custom patch

On default Line 6 4CM patch, the FX Block should be 100% wet to hear fx after fx block but i can't hear any fx after the block fx. 

 

 

 

[rd2rk]

If you're using TS cables and FX Loop L, then the SEND from your amp should be connected to RETURN L/MONO.

100% MIX is correct, 0.0db SEND/0.0db RETURN (defaults).

 

Your amp has a footswitch that controls the BOOST and FX LOOP. The footswitch must be connected to activate the FX LOOP.

From the manual:

 

Note: The Origin effects loop has been designed as a true bypass circuit so your signal path is not affected when the loop is not in use. To activate the effects loop you must plug your effects into the send and return outputs and insert the supplied footswitch (PEDL-90016). Using the footswitch you can then turn the effects loop on and off.

[richi_999r]

that's make sense!

it could be possible. i never used the footswitch as i play always with the boost active. 

As soon as possible will try this solution and will report.

Thank you

[richi_999r]

Problem solved.

Need to plug the foot switch and activate FX loop from it.

Now works fine.

Thank you again!

Riccardo