Wah block problem after rerouting signal chain

[jmydlan]

I am using Helix floor, firmware 3.50.0. I have been using a 4 cable method preset for a long time with no problems. In this preset there is a y split signal path going down from the first row where I had several effects. I just recently learned that in this signal path there is only 50 % wet signal going through so I wanted to stop using this signal path and move all effects up to the main signal path. After doing that, my wah pedal behaved strange even though it has not been moved. First the volume raised when I engaged the wah (the volume knob on the helix was then half way up), and if i engage the wah when the amp is in the lead channel (PRS Archon amp) I cant hear the distorted sound at all, only clean and again much louder. What could this be?

[datacommando]

On 3/21/2023 at 6:08 PM, jmydlan said:

I am using Helix floor, firmware 3.50.0. I have been using a 4 cable method preset for a long time with no problems. In this preset there is a y split signal path going down from the first row where I had several effects. I just recently learned that in this signal path there is only 50 % wet signal going through so I wanted to stop using this signal path and move all effects up to the main signal path. After doing that, my wah pedal behaved strange even though it has not been moved. First the volume raised when I engaged the wah (the volume knob on the helix was then half way up), and if i engage the wah when the amp is in the lead channel (PRS Archon amp) I cant hear the distorted sound at all, only clean and again much louder. What could this be?

Hi,

 

This is all a little vague, and it’s a really big help to supply the actual preset that exhibits the problem you require assistance with.

 

From your comment we have no idea where this Y split is in the signal path and exactly what effects are assigned on Path B. You also state that Path 1B contains only 50% wet signal. If that path contains delay and reverb effects they can be set to output 100% of the effect. You should consult the Helix 3.0 Owner’s Manual - Rev F - English - Page 41 - Split and Merge blocks. Also see page 19 Signal Routing etc.

 

https://line6.com/data/6/0a020a3f041b611d61cac763b/application/pdf/Helix 3.0 Owner's Manual - Rev F - English .pdf

 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

 

[rd2rk]

As @datacommandosuggested, please attach the actual preset so we can see what's going on.

[jmydlan]

Thanks for responding. I am sorry that my english is not so good, but I hope you understand.  I have read the manual and seen many youtube videos about this topic. It was a Line 6 Helix minute: Create multiple signal paths I learned that the 1B path has 50% wet signal. I didnt know that, but I have had a problem figuring out why my distortion blocks never gave me enough distortion. And then I understodd that since they where on my 1B path 50 % of the signal was a clean signal. So I wanted to move them all up to the main path. So after doing that and removing the 1B path all together the strange thing happend to my wah block, that it behaved the way it dit, even though it was not moved or touched at all.

 

I made myself a new preset based on the 4 cable method preset in the helix, and copied all the blocks over. It workes well, so the problem is kind of solved. IF I figure out how to copy the "broken" preset over to my computer I can put in here for you to see, but no need to put much effort in to try to help, since I made a new that works.