HX Stomp XL + Mission SP1-L6H and remembering toeswitch position per snaphot

[delanthear]

Hi,  I'm struggling to get something working with a Mission Engineering SP1-L6H Line 6 and my Stomp XL.

 

I've the wah connected and working fine swapping between the modes.   I.e.

Select the first preset which defaults to Snapshot 1.   The mission is currently set to control the output volume (not not enough blocks for the volume block).   Press the toe switch and the Wah block enables and the mission now controls the wah position of the wah block (via EXP2).  Great!

 

However, if I change snapshot, there doesn't seem to be a way to send the mission toeswitch back to the initial position.  I.e. if I press again on Snapshot one, it will reset any changes I've done (if I've turned an effect off)  but the mission will still control the wah block position, even though that block is now turned off.  It's now out of sync with what I was intending.

 

Is there a way of setting the snaphot so that it will make the Mission know it should be in EXP1, not EXP2?

[Schmalle]

No. You need an extra volume block. And you need to use EXP1 for both the wah and vol block and toggle their bypass states with the toe switch.

[delanthear]

Ok, so I've just discovered the new dual cabs block so I can reduce my 2 cab blocks down to one and make more space (hurrah!).

 

So, to get this working right, I need to have the volume black and wah block, assign both position values to EXP1 and then on each block assign the bypass controller to footswitch 8.  Is that right?

 

Just setting this up, and when the toeswitch has been clicked, the pedal no longer controls the wah position value?  but if I set it to EXP2 it does?

 

I'm so confused!

 

 

[datacommando]

On 4/14/2024 at 7:39 PM, delanthear said:

I'm so confused!

Hi,

 

From the HX Stomp XL Owner’s Manual - Page 7

 

”EXP 1/2, FS 7/8 Connect an expression pedal here to adjust a wide variety of parameters.* With a Y-cable (tip-ring-sleeve 1/4" jack, split to two tip-sleeve 1/4" jacks), two expression pedals can be connected. Alternatively, you can add one (or with a Y-cable, two) external footswitches to access additional stomps, presets, snapshots, etc. (FS7=tip, FS8=ring). To set this jack’s function(s), see page 57. By default, this jack is set to accommodate a Mission SP1-L6H Line 6 Expression Pedal, which has a toe switch that toggles between EXP 1 (Wah/Pitch or Poly Wham) and EXP 2 (Volume/Pan). For external footswitches, the momentary (unlatched) type should be used.”

 

From Page 57. 
 

No - Stop! I am not going to re-type the entire Manual when you can download it and read it for yourself - here:

 

 

Hope this helps/makes sense.

 

 

[delanthear]

Yes, I've read the manual and that is how I was configuring it originally, except that I wasn't using a volume pedal block.  That wasn't the question though.

 

 I have a different issue in that I want to be able to rely on when changing snapshots that I know what the Mission is controlling but I'm not sure if that's actually possible!

 

My confusion is that the first reply suggested something which appears to contradict the manual, hence why I'm confused.

[Schmalle]

On 4/14/2024 at 8:39 PM, delanthear said:

Ok, so I've just discovered the new dual cabs block so I can reduce my 2 cab blocks down to one and make more space (hurrah!).

 

So, to get this working right, I need to have the volume black and wah block, assign both position values to EXP1 and then on each block assign the bypass controller to footswitch 8.  Is that right?

 

Just setting this up, and when the toeswitch has been clicked, the pedal no longer controls the wah position value?  but if I set it to EXP2 it does?

 

I'm so confused!

What I proposed is an alternative way. The manual endorses ToggleEXP but that can lead to sync problems with snapshots.

 

You need to set Global Settings -> Footswitches -> FS8 to FS8 Function (and not ToggleEXP) for this to work.

 

The idea is that one block is on at a time while the other is off - FS8 (toe switch) toggles between them. EXP1 controls the Position of both blocks at all times but it is only heard in the block that is currently enabled/not bypassed.

 

 

[delanthear]

Ah ha!   I will try that!

[delanthear]

On 4/15/2024 at 11:29 AM, Schmalle said:

You need to set Global Settings -> Footswitches -> FS8 to FS8 Function (and not ToggleEXP) for this to work.

 

I think I worked it out.  I neeeded to change this setting to Stomp 8?  I think that's working!

 

For anyone else looking at the thread, going into Global Settings -> Footswitches there is an option called FS8 Function.  The choices are ToggleEXP (which is default), then AllBypass, SnpshtDn, SnpshtUp, PresetDn, PresetUp, Bank Dn, Bank Up, Stomp 8, TAP/Tunr.

 

Stomp 8 turns it the footswitch on the MIssion into "just another button", rather than one which switches between EXP1 and EXP2.  You can then assign the bypass options on both blocks to Footswitch 8.    Then assign the EXP1 to BOTH positions on the wah and the volume pedal.

This means that when you move the wah position, it moves BOTH the position of the volume block and the wah block, but if you set those blocks so one is on and the other is off, pressing the mission footswitch swaps which is active! 

NICE!

 

This means, that if you've a snapshot where you want one effect to be active on the Mission, and another footswitch with a different one, you can just set the correct block to be active in the snapshot, and the mission will just control it properly. 

 

I wonder why it doesn't work like this by default?